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Unread 08-17-2007, 08:03 AM   #46
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Thanks Merlin, I guess I didnt see that post earlier. We got great news today. The dealership was finally able to get a price for the engine and was assured they can get it delivered from Michigan. Price: $23,500

.... in my best Frank Barone impersonation..... HOLY CRAP!


I can't believe the motor is going to cost the insurance co. $23,500! That must be about half what the Jeep is worth.


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Unread 08-17-2007, 03:03 PM   #47
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Oh boy, that is really weird. I might have to buy extended warranty, just in case.
The only buyer's remorse I've felt since buying my WK CRD is about the cost of chisler's, I mean Chrysler's, bumper-to-bumper warranty. I finally agreed to get it only because it's refunded in full if I never use it. Sounds like it may have been a wise investment.

I'm glad Tuco is getting a new mill. Funny thing is, when the manager was hawking extended warranties, he tossed some numbers around, and I thought he suggested $4K for the engine. I didn't blink at that, and I believe he may have simply taken the price difference for the diesel option.

I'm also wondering about the level of support at the dealers that are selling the CRD. They don't always bother to stock the right oil, and may not have the filters, either. I have a feeling that somebody somewhere is going to have their WK CRD serviced and have its life shortened...
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Unread 08-17-2007, 03:58 PM   #48
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I think we need to give it another year or so for the dealer techs and parts folks to get up to speed on the CRD here in the US.

Nobody said anything to me about full refund if we dont use the warranty. We would have bought it in that case. Maybe its not too late to purchase the extended warranty under the same arrangement that you have.

Hey Merlin. Do you know off hand what the core charge of the factory engine is? What do they do with the old hydrolocked engines? If the core charge is reasonable, we will haul the old engine home.
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Unread 08-17-2007, 04:13 PM   #49
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They are not exchange units, they will not ask for it back hence the price is so high. I would send you another con rod from the engines I had but scraped them ( after a had some bits of it) just before you started this post. If it was a warranty job then they would want it back but not in your case. I believe the engine will belong to the insurance company but can’t see they will want it.
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Unread 08-17-2007, 07:08 PM   #50
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In that case I will ask for it back. I can come pick it up at their earliest convenience.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 10:00 AM   #51
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Nobody said anything to me about full refund if we dont use the warranty. We would have bought it in that case. Maybe its not too late to purchase the extended warranty under the same arrangement that you have.
I am pretty certain they will NOT refund you the "warranty" if you do not use it.
They are trying to sell it to you for one reason and that is to make money off it.
They will "refund" you the money if you decide to cancel the "warranty" before the end of it's term (and haven't used it). But if you baked the cost into your loan like most people do it's too late since the refund will go to the lien holder and not to you and they will not change your payment so you will still essentially pay the interest on a service you do not have anymore.
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Unread 08-21-2007, 06:43 AM   #52
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further to my post about fitting a porsche pop off valve the valve is designed to release pressure so I fitted it the wrong way round and put a weak spring on it so a vacuum in the inlet manifold will open it. I then fitted a filter on the outside so if it opens it will suck clean air. The only test I could do is blocking the inlet manifold with a rag and listen to it opening and sucking.I felt I had to do something as the water level was up to the front tow hook about 17 inches when I hydraulicked the engine a depth that I am likely to meet again. I believe my mistake was to be in high ratio 1st which meant I was travelling to quickly and pushed the bow wave up to the air inlet. So next time it will be low ratio 1st or 2nd and fingers crossed the valve works if needed.
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Unread 08-21-2007, 07:29 AM   #53
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That sounds pretty cool Paul. I'd like to see a pic or two of how you located the valve, filter and spring. Something that works and is invisible sounds like the way to go.
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Unread 08-21-2007, 09:21 AM   #54
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I think we need to give it another year or so for the dealer techs and parts folks to get up to speed on the CRD here in the US.
I agree about giving it more time. Diesels are going to become more popular again with today's fuel prices (I hope to own a WK CRD myself). I remember the 70's, as my dad bought a diesel back then, and they were all the rage. Fortunately today they are a lot cleaner and run better. Plus diesel back then always had water in it unless it was bought from a truck stop...
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Unread 08-21-2007, 02:27 PM   #55
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Had a new guy start at my work so we sent him on a jeep introduction course. On this course they had a 4x4 day to show them how better the Jeep is compared to Land Rover lol (sorry Land rover). On the course they where using JK and WH (same as your WK) jeeps, as we have been talking about this at work he asked them and they said they have the intake higher and have it facing the engine (not the front) and as long as you have a bow wave going you don’t have a problem. Being new he didn’t ask more but I am up there next month on a Nitro course (love it so far) so will find out more with some pictures if needed. So they do know how bad they are and have a way around it. Believe me these jeeps where going over bumper height in water.
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Unread 08-22-2007, 08:28 AM   #56
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I will take some pictures of the pop off valve and fitting hopefully this weekend and post
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Unread 08-24-2007, 07:35 PM   #57
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drain the oil, and replace it
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Unread 08-27-2007, 03:51 AM   #58
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I have just tried to post some pictures of my pop off valve and failed! I can fix engines better than computers! The part fitted is a Weltmeister pressure relief valve available from any porsche classic specialist as it is a aftermarket fitting for any 911 with K jetronic about 74 to 83 depending on market. Weaken the spring fit it flap inside in the top removable plastic air cleaner . I fitted mine in the gap between the air cleaner and front wing, behind the headlamp, where the body pressing gives extra space. I then fitted a small air filter (mine was for a breather hose) on the ouside. Hopefully then when a vacuum is formed in the inlet if it is covererd with water for instance the flap will open and air not water will reach the engine. Another trick which could help is one used on old petrol Land Rovers, where the cooling fan, when it hit water, sprayed it all over the electrics, was to hang a sheet of plastic over the front of the radiator outside to keep the bow wave out of the engine bay.
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Unread 09-12-2007, 05:09 AM   #59
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Hey Tuco.. any update on your replacement engine ?? Hows all that coming along ?
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Unread 09-12-2007, 10:25 AM   #60
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Its a very slow process. The dealership is removing the engine and verifying the bent rods etc. so that the insurance company can approve the engine purchase. It will probably be a few more weeks until we get it back.

When we get it back we will post a follow-up and some pictures. For now we are riding our bikes to work or driving the 30 year old international. For some reason, my wife liked driving the Jeep to work better
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