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Unread 06-13-2013, 10:52 AM   #1
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CRD turbo inlet pipe

I thought all was well as I have the black seal pipe; replacing the earlier orange seal, but my jeep specialist says that the black seal is also leaking, and that Mercedes have an updated part which is a red seal. Anyone else heard this, or got the red seal?

Its confusing coz the MB forums complain about the red seal and replacing it with a Jeep part ?!

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Unread 06-13-2013, 12:05 PM   #2
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Well, I've just about had it with my CRD. Its been in the shop over 10 weeks so far this year. Stealership A changes out leaking inlet pipe but ignores the mess below AND damages rear bumper. A week later swirl motor dies 2-1/2 hours out of town. Stealership B in Backwater Nowhersville takes 4 weeks to fix and scratches my front bumber all to hell to boot. Another week later, turbo starts whining. Back to Stealership A who discover Stealership B has botched the swirl motor repair and crosthreaded multiple bolts causing among other things a leak at the turbo oulet. Another 3 weeks to fix that. Add to that a consistantly recurring TPM Sytem warning that Stealership A hasnt been able to figure out in 3 years. On top of that I also have an oddd recurring shift problem where I pull out on to a highway and the damned thing wont shift out of first gear until I pull over, turn off the ignition and restart the damned thing. And dont get me started on the oil filters that Chrysler seems to think is a value at $60+ that I can buy at Mercedes for $22????
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Unread 06-14-2013, 09:57 PM   #3
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No. Go with the black one. You may want ot think about installing a catch-can or that elephant modification. Both modifications are listed on here.
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Unread 06-15-2013, 01:14 PM   #4
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OK black one, but why ... my Jeep guy wants to put on the red one?
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Unread 06-15-2013, 01:18 PM   #5
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red one is bound to leak and break

that being said the black one can still possibly leak..
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Unread 06-15-2013, 02:33 PM   #6
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but if the red one is now the updated part, surely that infers its 'better' than the black one.?!!!
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Unread 06-15-2013, 02:58 PM   #7
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theres a red one now?
i assumed u were talking about the first orange one...
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Unread 06-15-2013, 04:24 PM   #8
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No no there is indeed a new red one.
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Unread 06-15-2013, 05:20 PM   #9
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got a link or anything to it?
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Unread 06-15-2013, 10:34 PM   #10
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From what I'm a aware the oldest one is red, then it was orange and now it's black.

I've seen a few threads about it on the MB forums.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w164...il-leak-2.html
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Unread 06-16-2013, 01:37 AM   #11
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Just do the EHM (elephant hose mod). Then it doesn't matter what seal/intake you use and you won't have to worry about your swirl motor getting more gummed up with oil than it probably already is. Then do the 4.7k resistor mod to the swirl motor connector. With those 2 items you won't have to worry about going through all the cr@p poor Bubslg has gone through. The problem is that people on this forum are more educated about these CRD engines than any Jeep dealership. So you take it to a "professional" dealership expecting things to get fixed right the first time, but instead your Jeep becomes the practice bed for a technician whom has probably never seen this engine before. Just my 0.02. Those two mods are not difficult by any means, any novice should be able to do it. If you are still unsure, buy the parts, print the instructions, and take it to an aftermarket shop to do the work...which should only take them an hour even seeing it the first time.
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Unread 06-16-2013, 08:08 AM   #12
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Better yet, invest a bit more and buy the GDE Eco tune and forget about swirl motors and EGR and get better mileage....
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Unread 06-16-2013, 11:33 AM   #13
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Better yet, invest a bit more and buy the GDE Eco tune and forget about swirl motors and EGR and get better mileage....
this x 1 million
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Unread 06-16-2013, 05:07 PM   #14
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Cheers I'm aware of the EHM and resistor mods, but yeah I will be getting a tune at some point, but right now still spending many pennies on getting maintenance up to date and its still on finance. Recently changed the oil and filter, and air filter, and just had the serpentine belt, fuel filter, coolant, brake fluid, diffs, transfer box, and transmission fluids and filters replaced. MOT is due next month so need to get the rear fogs fixed, rear brakes, intake oil seal, glow plug, pas flush, front wheel wobble at motorway speeds sorted, oh and a new windscreen, then its road tax month , then car insurance renewal, then new tyres will be due, THEN I can get a tune .......perhaps next year. Phew. These things aint cheap to run in the land of the $10 gallon.

I will get the oil seal replaced and post the new part number. My Jeep guy used to run the Jeep workshop in Norwich, UK, so I'm trusting him to know best.

Now if the swirl drowns in a puddle of oil, then the tune becomes a immediate repair instead of a luxury and can therefore be bought immediately
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Unread 06-16-2013, 11:06 PM   #15
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You may want to think about buying the 50 cent resistor required so you jeep is not undriveable while you wait for a tune.
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