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Unread 10-22-2005, 06:28 PM   #1
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commander vs H3

thoughts, i looked at the H3 and was impressed what are you guys thoughts?

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Unread 10-23-2005, 07:06 AM   #2
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Going from a CJ-7 to the H3 is a great step for you. Have fun......don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out.



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Unread 10-23-2005, 11:59 AM   #3
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There's one thing I really don't like on the H3. It's the windows, why are they so damn small? The H1 doesn't have small windows, so it's not that 'heritage' bull -=-=-=-=
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Unread 10-23-2005, 02:36 PM   #4
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an h3 is a puv or performance utility vehical, its ment for soccer moms to drive to the grocery store in any weather and still look "good" doing it, or its for all the ghetto people to put big retarded rims on it and tires that have less tread then a bald mud terrain tirei would rather stick needles in my eyes then buy an h3, and im reasonably sure its built on a car chassis, so if thats the route you want to take, then feel free, i dont mean to flame on you but ever since the h2 came out i have been very let down by hummer
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Unread 10-24-2005, 12:25 PM   #5
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I hear that the five cylinder engine could use more power.
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Unread 10-24-2005, 01:41 PM   #6
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I would bet that it could out wheel a stock commander. But even considering that I would buy the jeep before the h3 on principle alone.
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Unread 10-24-2005, 11:52 PM   #7
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the two serve totally different purposes. I think the H3 is more for the off road. I'd compare it more to an x-terra or maybe an XJ . I found it was under powered and really only has seats for 4 . It should match up well to the 4 door wrangler when it comes out . The Commander I dont think will be as agile as the H3 off road but it has plenty of power ( with v8) and plenty of room for those of us with kids or need for 5+ passengers .
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I bet you could out wheel a stock YJ over a novice driving a stock YJ. The point is that either you prefer it or not.

You opted to say that you prefer the vehicle due to brand loyalty.

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Unread 10-25-2005, 08:57 AM   #9
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I am all about brand loyalty... but it appears that Hummer is seeing the error of its ways (H2), and building more rugged, and capable vehicles(H3) (like you would expect from hummer)...

Where as Jeep is heading in the complete opposite direction... If I had a choice... I would wheel the H3 over the commander any day.
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Unread 10-25-2005, 11:13 AM   #10
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I do not like the H3 at all I think it is a joke and hummer is hurting thier name and losing respect beacuse of this SUV.
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I do not like the H3 at all I think it is a joke and hummer is hurting thier name and losing respect beacuse of this SUV.

The H3 is outselling the Grand Cherokee and Commander combined. I don't think their loosing anything at this point. Except H2 sales.
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Unread 10-25-2005, 01:34 PM   #12
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The H3 is outselling the Grand Cherokee and Commander combined. I don't think their loosing anything at this point. Except H2 sales.
Agreed.

I have never, ever, ever, ever seen a "dirty" h2 or h3. Ever.

I've seen two muddy H1's, but they were at least 10 years old.

Hummers have turned into Yuppie Mobiles.

Whether H3's can offroad or not isn't the point, the point is that no one wants to spend 35 grand for a nice Hummer and beat it up on the trails.
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Agreed.

I have never, ever, ever, ever seen a "dirty" h2 or h3. Ever.

I've seen two muddy H1's, but they were at least 10 years old.

Hummers have turned into Yuppie Mobiles.

Whether H3's can offroad or not isn't the point, the point is that no one wants to spend 35 grand for a nice Hummer and beat it up on the trails.

There are a few H2's around here that would make even the most hardcore Jeepers drool. Hummer has done the same thing Jeep has. Taken a great hardcore offroad name and put out vehicles that a majority of consumers want. Better ride, handling, etc.

Offroaders only count for a small percentage. Most folks never take their Jeeps off the pavement. It makes me sick when I hear things like "The offroad lengend continues, onroad"

Oh well, at least with new ones coming out, the older ones have been getting cheaper.
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Unread 10-25-2005, 11:08 PM   #14
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Well as they say, "run what you brung"

I've seen a couple H2's offroading. They seem to be doing fine.

I've brought my wife's Cayenne S offroading at least a half dozen times. Just did Gold Mountain Trail last Sunday, rated Difficult.

I have the Commander, so that's what I'll be offroading in the future.

K&N R&D has it right now, they are developing a conical air filter kit for it. I'll get it back in about 5 days, then get a production kit as soon as it's released.

They gave me a Durango loaner with the Magnum V8.
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Unread 10-27-2005, 01:21 PM   #15
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Agreed.

I have never, ever, ever, ever seen a "dirty" h2 or h3. Ever.

I've seen two muddy H1's, but they were at least 10 years old.

Hummers have turned into Yuppie Mobiles.

Whether H3's can offroad or not isn't the point, the point is that no one wants to spend 35 grand for a nice Hummer and beat it up on the trails.
The H3 is not much more expensive than a new GC(v8 laredo 4x4, limited will kill your wallet). Most people dont hit the trails with spankin new vehicles. The H3 is woefully inadequate compared to the GC, and i feel that the H3 is the closest to the GC in terms of size and weight. To compare the H3 to the LWB wrangler is absurd, the Hummer is a fat turd next to it.

The only thing that the H3 has in its favor is the 5 speed, but i still need more cylinders than i have gears.

GC's have been "yuppie mobiles" (im guessing by that you mean soccer mom vehicles)for a while and so will the commander. The difference is that nobody puts 22" dubaspin whatevers with rubber bands on jeeps. Jeep definately has a larger off road core than hummer, but the majority of both are driven on road.
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