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Unread 05-27-2008, 01:10 PM   #1
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changing trans fluid on W5A580

I guess my ?? is this. No dipstick on these trannies. Tech reference says 4-6qt capacity needed on service. Has anyone serviced these themselves and if so, what did you do on fluid amounts? I can drop the pan and "guess" on the amount...but I don't really like that choice. I may just put in 4 qts and go to the dealer and have them 'stick' it to see if I'm low. I'm sure I won't be over. Thoughts??

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Unread 05-27-2008, 01:48 PM   #2
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Yeah...I hate this 'closed system.' Allegedly, the dealer only can check the fluid level (due to it needing to be checked at a strict temperature, or something). Thanks, Jeep!
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Unread 05-27-2008, 01:58 PM   #3
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I believe dash hawk or some other after market monitor with tell you trans temp (needs to be in drive or reverse or it shows engine temp( well star scan does)) then all you need it a plastic stick with 10mm notches and away you go. I will post the temp/oil level chart should you want it.
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Unread 05-27-2008, 02:09 PM   #4
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So, take a plastic stick that will fit in the tube, and make marks/notches on it every 10mm, starting from the bottom? Could a dipstick from the other WK tranny work?

Post that info, please!

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Unread 05-27-2008, 03:48 PM   #5
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Welp, I was JUST at the dealer 2 weeks ago and they replaced the infamous leaking "sensor o-ring" and topped off the system. My thoughts now are that the level is correct so If I can get my hands on a stick that will make it down to the bottom of the pan, I'm in business. Then I can post where it should be on the stick and which to use etc. Let me know if you agree Merlin. Thanks!
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Unread 05-27-2008, 04:31 PM   #6
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Welp, I was JUST at the dealer 2 weeks ago and they replaced the infamous leaking "sensor o-ring" and topped off the system. My thoughts now are that the level is correct so If I can get my hands on a stick that will make it down to the bottom of the pan, I'm in business. Then I can post where it should be on the stick and which to use etc. Let me know if you agree Merlin. Thanks!
Did you ask them to check the ring or did they just notice a little leak? From what I've been reading on here, the leak is almost barely noticeable, certainly not enough to drip onto the blacktop below the vehicle.
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Unread 05-27-2008, 04:54 PM   #7
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Welp, I was JUST at the dealer 2 weeks ago and they replaced the infamous leaking "sensor o-ring" and topped off the system. My thoughts now are that the level is correct so If I can get my hands on a stick that will make it down to the bottom of the pan, I'm in business. Then I can post where it should be on the stick and which to use etc. Let me know if you agree Merlin. Thanks!
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You will need something to read the trans temp.
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Unread 05-27-2008, 05:03 PM   #8
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Merlin is correct. The DashHawk will read trans. temp. (although 2.5 BETA FOUR fails to do so) on almost every version. The temperature is only displayed when engaged in a drive gear.
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Unread 05-27-2008, 05:04 PM   #9
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check out this link, it even has a link for the dipstick and i think it is around 70 dollars. Someone even used the dodge ram 5.9L dipstick with some success.

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/per...-dipstick.html

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http://www.wyckoffchryslerparts.com/troillechto.html

temp chart for those with a 5.7L
http://www.300cforums.com/forums/att...k-untitled.jpg
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Unread 05-27-2008, 06:36 PM   #10
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My dealership actually called me up a few months after I bought it from them and told me I needed to bring it in so they could perform the fix for the 0-ring TSB. I was impressed then, but now their service sucks if I get in contact with anyone else but this guy named Jon at the service counter.

Tomorrow morning I'm going in at 7am to have them look at a re-occuring problem with my gauge cluster/control panel. It's been faultless since February.
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Unread 05-27-2008, 07:34 PM   #11
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Did you ask them to check the ring or did they just notice a little leak? From what I've been reading on here, the leak is almost barely noticeable, certainly not enough to drip onto the blacktop below the vehicle.
No, I had brought it in for leak. I noticed the pan "sweating". I also complained about the slow gear engagement but couldn't get them to do the bulletin for the oil cooler return. I was hoping they would, then I would have just paid extra for the filter and service would be done!
Regardless, you guys keep mentioning trans temp? What I don't get is if it's at NOT in park, why couldn't you get an accurate readin on the stick?? I realize when cold it will read diff, but when warm? What am I missing?
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Unread 05-28-2008, 05:36 AM   #12
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No, I had brought it in for leak. I noticed the pan "sweating". I also complained about the slow gear engagement but couldn't get them to do the bulletin for the oil cooler return. I was hoping they would, then I would have just paid extra for the filter and service would be done!
If you are referring to the oil cooler return filter TSB, then there's a good reason why they didn't do it - it only applies to the 545RFE trans. I gather from you initial post you have a 3.7L A580 combo....
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Unread 05-28-2008, 05:52 AM   #13
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thats interesting, i just got gas today, and i checked all my fluids, including the tranny. i have the w5a580 tranny too, and mine has a dipstick. did they change it after 05? or was this one of the changes to rental cars?
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Unread 05-28-2008, 07:19 AM   #14
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No you shouldn't have a dip stick.
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Unread 05-28-2008, 08:26 AM   #15
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If you are referring to the oil cooler return filter TSB, then there's a good reason why they didn't do it - it only applies to the 545RFE trans. I gather from you initial post you have a 3.7L A580 combo....
Chris, your right. I guess I overlooked that one. Dang.
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