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post #1 of 16 Old 09-18-2015, 11:04 PM Thread Starter
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$200 labor to replace $40 sensor

Paid $200 labor to replace $40 crankshaft sensor. Did I get f**d or is it really that hard to replace this sensor?

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post #2 of 16 Old 09-19-2015, 05:07 AM
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I did mine a few weeks ago and it was tough to get out. Took me a little more than one hour. Only one bolt held the unit in but rust and grime had accumulated in and around the hole the sensor is inserted.

The crank sensor was located in a tight and difficult to access area. Needed to use a rust dissolving solution and turn and pry, turn and pry to get the unit out while I was under the vehicle. Had to be delicate but firm during the process so that the plastic sensor did not break off in the crank sensor hole. Removing the old sensor was a very slow process. There was a point in the process about 30 minutes into it that I wished I had taken it to the Dealer to change the unit. Installing the new sensor was difficult also because the hole made for a very, very tight fit. Coated the O ring with engine oil and had to turn and push, turn and push, for about 25 minutes to get the sensor fully seated.

My Dealer that charges $125/hr. probably would have billed me $250 for the labor plus parts and it would have been worth it.
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that's reassuring. Replacing sensor sounded like something simple. btw did you find out it was sensor from reading the sensor code on your dash? I tried that ignition trick before they fixed it (turn off and on) but it never displayed any special codes. Yours is also an 05 right? Im buying code reader for future probs
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did you find out it was sensor from reading the sensor code on your dash?
No codes for me. My ABS wheel sensors had been going bad one by one over the past few years until the fourth one went out. At that point, I realized that these electronic sensors probably had a service life and I did not want to risk having the crank or cam sensor fail on a long trip. So, I took the opportunity to change out both the cam and crank sensors along with that fourth abs speed sensor.
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post #5 of 16 Old 09-19-2015, 07:06 PM
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Why yes, yes they did. I did this in 30 minutes. I would expect a trained tech to be much faster. It's one bolt. You can reach it pretty easily. Removal of bellypan is only snag. Probably common knowledge that they over bill time worked. No way it took two hours. I've always heard that there is a book in most shops that determines how much time you get billed for a job, regardless of how long it actually takes. It's likely they make good money that way.

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Camshaft Position Sensor Replace

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Why yes, yes they did. I did this in 30 minutes. I would expect a trained tech to be much faster. It's one bolt. You can reach it pretty easily. Removal of bellypan is only snag. Probably common knowledge that they over bill time worked. No way it took two hours. I've always heard that there is a book in most shops that determines how much time you get billed for a job, regardless of how long it actually takes. It's likely they make good money that way.
I have an 08 CRD, just got the code P0340 CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR. Where did you get information on how to do the replacement? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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post #7 of 16 Old 09-20-2015, 08:38 AM Thread Starter
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I had a wheel sensor go out couple months ago and I ignored it. I know it was wheel sensor 3 warnings and then dealer said its wheel sensor. So is the crankshaft sensor quitting related to the wheel sensor, and if so, wheel sensor fix is now top priority yes?
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I never got a code on my 2006 WK 3.7. Just kept cutting out suddenly. I changed the CPS in my 20degree garage in February of 2011. It was a pain in the a** and took 2 hours. It had rust around it so I cleaned the area around it with a dremel before I put the new one in. Also slightly sanded the plastic housing. No problem since.

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post #9 of 16 Old 09-18-2017, 09:56 AM
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Hello All!
Does a failing CPS always throw a code? Would a failing CPS guarantee a stall?
I have hard/no starting issues. No codes thrown. Runs fine after starting (restarting is hit and miss), she's never stalled on me.
With a scanner I found my high pressure fuel set point is 4700 PSI and my jeep's actual reading slowly rises to 1200 ish before firing up.

Please help! Thanks!!

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I don't know what year and what engine you have. For the V8's in 2006 (either the 5.7L Hemi or the 4.7L) the labor time guide I have says 0.8 hours "warranty time." With a 10 year old or older vehicle, it's not unusual to multiply warranty estimates by 1.5 to account for age and condition of the vehicle.

I don't have the numbers available for the 3.0L CRD, and my "free, non-commercial use" labor time guide cuts off at 2007 for Jeep and other Chrysler products.

I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why my position is correct.
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I don't know what year and what engine you have. For the V8's in 2006 (either the 5.7L Hemi or the 4.7L) the labor time guide I have says 0.8 hours "warranty time." With a 10 year old or older vehicle, it's not unusual to multiply warranty estimates by 1.5 to account for age and condition of the vehicle.

I don't have the numbers available for the 3.0L CRD, and my "free, non-commercial use" labor time guide cuts off at 2007 for Jeep and other Chrysler products.
the 2007 sensor is the same location and sensor as the 2008 on the crd

where do you down load the free guide from?

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the 2007 sensor is the same location and sensor as the 2008 on the crd

where do you down load the free guide from?
I have online access to one through my local public library system.

It used to just ask for your library card # for access. Earlier this year, they switched to a "secret password" and you have to go to the library every couple months and get the password when it changes.

For Chrylser, it seems to give me everything 2007 and older. I'm not sure if that's a fixed 10 year window (and 2008's will come online next year), or if that's a Daimler Chrysler/Fiat Chrysler split and the newer ones will never show up.

If your public library has access to Galileo/EBSCO databases, it's in that, in the "Auto Repair Reference Center."

Oh, and your quote in your signature is incomplete, and it's misattributed. That quote is actually from George V. Higgins, "This lifeís hard, but itís harder if youíre stupid."

I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why my position is correct.
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I have online access to one through my local public library system.

It used to just ask for your library card # for access. Earlier this year, they switched to a "secret password" and you have to go to the library every couple months and get the password when it changes.

For Chrylser, it seems to give me everything 2007 and older. I'm not sure if that's a fixed 10 year window (and 2008's will come online next year), or if that's a Daimler Chrysler/Fiat Chrysler split and the newer ones will never show up.

If your public library has access to Galileo/EBSCO databases, it's in that, in the "Auto Repair Reference Center."

Oh, and your quote in your signature is incomplete, and it's misattributed. That quote is actually from George V. Higgins, "This lifeís hard, but itís harder if youíre stupid."
I dont know anything about this, could you explain?
Is there a service manual online for these vehicles?

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I dont know anything about this, could you explain?
Is there a service manual online for these vehicles?
It depends on where you live.

Your profile says "Denver." If that's Denver CO, then according to this web page: https://www.denverlibrary.org/database/a you can access the Auto Repair Reference Center online with your Denver Public Library card. That's the same database I can get through my local public library. It's got service manual information, wiring diagrams, labor time guides and TSB's for most Chrysler products though about 2007 model year, and for other manufacturers as well. How recent depends on the manufacturer.

Autozone.com also has significant parts of their AllData service information online, but you have to sign up for a "free" account with your email.

Just to be clear, the online Auto Repair Reference Center that's available through the public library can be accessed online from anywhere. You don't have to go to the library to access it.

I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why my position is correct.
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It depends on where you live.

Your profile says "Denver." If that's Denver CO, then according to this web page: https://www.denverlibrary.org/database/a you can access the Auto Repair Reference Center online with your Denver Public Library card. That's the same database I can get through my local public library. It's got service manual information, wiring diagrams, labor time guides and TSB's for most Chrysler products though about 2007 model year, and for other manufacturers as well. How recent depends on the manufacturer.

Autozone.com also has significant parts of their AllData service information online, but you have to sign up for a "free" account with your email.

Just to be clear, the online Auto Repair Reference Center that's available through the public library can be accessed online from anywhere. You don't have to go to the library to access it.
Ya know, I try to limit my cursing when in public buuuuuut......**** YEA BUDDY!! 3 minutes into that database and I'm getting the needed info, Thanks a million!!

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