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Unread 07-20-2007, 10:13 PM   #16
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I have never been flashed.
Common, you drive an SRT8 clone! The ladies gotta love you!


I may be interested in doing this mod myself later on down the line... on a scale of 1-10 (10 being hard) about what difficulty are we looking at with it?

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Unread 07-21-2007, 06:56 AM   #17
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I have a www.cqlight.ca kit in my 07 CRD. Put them in about a month ago. Took literally less than 10 minutes. i will post pics today. 100% plug and play. the light output is incredible. Mine are 5000k and cost $179 shipped. i have them in my wife's MDX and my BMW Motorcycle. One problem... Maybe the bulb is either too short or too long, but I had to adjustmy lights UP and now my high beams shine in the trees. But, I will never own a car without HID's again. Any of the guys on this thread who say don't do it don't have the balls to try it or the money, because once you do, you will never go back. ps. anything higher than 5000k and the output looks a little purple (I made that mistake on my moto).
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Unread 07-21-2007, 07:22 AM   #18
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http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x...herokee001.jpg

If you look in this photobucket gallery, you'll see pics of my HID install. I think you can scroll through the pics just by clicking above. If not, let me know. Thanks.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f67/adjusting-headlights-high-beams-mainly-434420/

Also, this thread covers my aiming woes.
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Unread 07-21-2007, 04:16 PM   #19
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^^^mine are 8000K , super bright blue color, and i totally agree with you "bobholthaus" , i would never ever again drive a car without HID lights, i totally love them, even though i had some problems with lights flickering , which was taking care of with some capacitors. i didnt mess or adjusted the beams yet, how easy was that , and is it easy to aim them back to their original location. , i will take some photos and post them here once i get off work , 5 hours left
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Unread 07-22-2007, 08:25 AM   #20
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Adjusting the beam up and down only requires a turn of a hex bolt that is right on the top of the housing. just make sure when you're cranking on it that your stroke is the same each time so you know many times you turned the one side so you can replicate it on the other side. walk in the park. please let us know if you have the same "high beams in the trees" problem that I do.

Also, I was thinking about you guys driving home last night... not only do HID's put out a ton more light, because of the spectrum of light output, they illuminate reflective items to the point that they almost glow. So, on a dark steet where someone is walking with reflective pieces on their shoes (which most running shoes have these days), or a reflective dog collar for instance, the reflective stuff looks like laser beams when hit with HID light. Its incredible. Same holds true for reflective stripes on police and fire trucks, and especially the DOT certified red and white stripes that you see on every 18 wheeler on the road... those strips glow when hit by HID, upping the safety factor exponentially, especially in the rain or fog or hazy evenings. Honestly, other than Kleenwheels (which I cover in another post), HID's are a mod that I will do on every car that I ever buy in the future, especially my children's cars, for the reasons above. I don't care if my child has a beater when they turn 16, it will have HID's for sure. Thanks.
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Unread 07-22-2007, 03:19 PM   #21
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i will try and adjust them tonight, and wil let you know for sure if i run into the highbeam issue , until then, here's a picture i took while driving last ngiht, its not that good of a picture ( cell phone) but its the reason i wanna adjust the lights cause it kinda focus the light into one spot and i wanna spread the lights further more.

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Unread 07-22-2007, 03:22 PM   #22
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The verticle adjustment screw is for up down. There is one pointing towards the rear of the vehicle which is for left right (I believe). You can't screw anything up, and they don't move a whole lot on each turn of the screw. Pull up to a garage door and watch the beams move as you turn the screws.
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Unread 07-23-2007, 01:59 AM   #23
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^^ i was out of luck tonight, couldnt find a hex key or a socket for it , on the other hand though, i located the top hex screw, but i couldnt find the other one you were pointing at , the one that point towards the rear, the only thing i saw was a small hole right under the top screw! is that it? and about adjusting them, you mentions something about a garage door, but i live in an apartment, so what would be the best method or a place to adjust them, cause i was gona do it right on the street
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Unread 07-23-2007, 07:00 AM   #24
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FYI for those of you with the extremely high color temperature (super blue) bulbs.

Typically, HID bulbs grow "bluer" with age. The only reason they started selling the bulbs with high color temperature was so that you could match the color if you had te replace only one bulb (say after a colission damaged one but the other one has lots of life left).

The more blue in your light, the brighter it "looks" but the less "throw" (reach, distance, whatever you like to call it) it has.

I'm not debating the fact that HIDs are great, I have them in my car. But HIDs in non-projector housings are only good for you and sucks for every driver you meet. _Especially_ the extreme color temperature ones.
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Unread 07-23-2007, 08:28 AM   #25
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bull_blaster- Let me look again this afternoon. I recall seeing a horizontal screw that was near the vertical one... it was hard to see (if I recall correctly). This, I believe, is the left-right adjustment screw (the screw itself looked just like the vertical one and was part of the housing, that's why I'm making the assumption). I did not change mine though, since my left-right was fine.

As for the garage door, you just need to have something to shine your lights on to get some relativity to how much they are moving. I guess it's not essential, since you're not going up-down, so you could just crank it three or four time, and then take a drive around the block. The garage door (or wall) just let's you see where you started from and how far you're actually moving them. Sometimes, if you can't see the beam actually move, you may have a tendency to overcrank because you think nothing is happening. It's just trial and error. Take the screwdriver with you when you drive around the block and pull over where it is safe and keep adjusting them until you're satisfied with the light pattern.

As for LEDFoot's comments... there are many OEM HID's that are not projector beamed... the Lincoln Navigator is one that I can think of off the top of my head (at least it wasn't when they first started making them). Projector beam cutoff's are ideal with HID, but mine are adjusted fine and I never have anyone flashing me, so I tend to disagree with what you are saying. If the '08 housing is easy to swap, I will do it. If not, I'll stick with what I have, which is very nice.
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Unread 07-23-2007, 08:58 AM   #26
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As for LEDFoot's comments... there are many OEM HID's that are not projector beamed... the Lincoln Navigator is one that I can think of off the top of my head (at least it wasn't when they first started making them). Projector beam cutoff's are ideal with HID, but mine are adjusted fine and I never have anyone flashing me, so I tend to disagree with what you are saying. If the '08 housing is easy to swap, I will do it. If not, I'll stick with what I have, which is very nice.
Early Mercedes and some Acuras had non projector HIDs too. But at least they had housings designed for HIDs.
That said, there is a reason to why they gave up on that and went to projector housings.
Just because you haven't gotten flashed doesn't mean your lights are not a problem for oncoming drivers

If I was going to do a HID conversion on a non HID and there were no HID/projector housings available I would look for some projectors that could be fitted into my current housings.
The projectors from the Honda s2000 are excellent by the way.
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Unread 07-23-2007, 12:11 PM   #27
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I got to see several retrofit HID setups this last weekend, and I have no idea why you guys are so excited about them. They're NOTHING like real HID/Xenon and I'd say none of them put more useful light on the road. If there is a way to retrofit an OEM setup, then I'd say sure. But the ones that I saw that used the stock housings - no F'n way. If you've never owned a car with the real thing, I guess I could understand the misconception - the guys that had them were sure thought they were great (I guess they would considering all the money they spent on them).

At least I got a chance to see them in person. I'll be doing a +50 upgrade, but it will be with Philips VisionPlus, Osram EU SilverStars, Narva RangePowers or Tungsram Megalichts.
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Unread 07-23-2007, 01:04 PM   #28
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Curt P- I just sold my Touareg w/ OEM HID's, had a BMW 3-Series before that (OEM HID), and an Audi A4 before that (also OEM HID). Not sure what you're talking about, or what a "+50 upgrade" is, but the upgrade that you mention are all "fake HID" bulb upgrades. What we are all talking about here is true HID bulbs, with a ballast and ignitor that wire inline to fire up the bulb. Like all of my OEM systems, these bulb "ignite" and slowly get brighter over about a 30 second start up. Having driven OEM HID's on arguably some of the finest cars in the world for the past 8 years, I can tell you that the upgrade I'm talking about (from www.cqlight.ca) is EXACTLY the same light output as my three previous vehicles (albeit, without projector beam lenses). Exactly $180 shipped, and I have them on three vehicles right now. I don't talk BS in my postings, as that would be a waste of everyone's time. These are the real deal; in my opinion, the output is far superior to stock halogen's and the safety factor, as I mention above, is even greater. If you bought a set, you'd agree, just as bull blaster did above, that you'll never have another car again without them. See pics for location of ignitor and ballast (the passenger side of the vehicle is shown).
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Unread 07-23-2007, 07:06 PM   #29
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The upgrades I seen were using HID/Xenon bulbs in stock housings. "Real" HID lights, but they were stuffed in stock halogen housings. They absolutely did not put any more useful light on the road. They lit more stuff up, but the light was scattered everywhere. There was no sharp cutoff to prevent blinding oncoming traffic and not one of them had a self-leveling mechanism in place. The ONLY reason these guys thought they were great is because some of them spent upwards of $800 for their setups. One guy was even running aftermarket HID driving lights that he got from some guy on eBay. To them, perception is reality. It was what I could do to keep from laughing at these guys.

The Plus 50 is nothing more than a tweaked halogen bulb. I run E-Code lenses in three of my vehicles. Two of them have stock wattage Narva Rangepower High Efficacy Plus 30 bulbs, the third (my 5.9) has 70/65W Osram Plus 50 bulbs. I couldn't find the Narva +50 bulbs in the 9005/9006 (only +30), but I was able to find Philips VisionPlus in the +50 at stock wattage. I'm now looking for selective-yellow H10 lamps for the fogs.

Here's some good reading from someone who knows what he's talking about:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...dvantages.html

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...lbs/bulbs.html
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Unread 07-26-2007, 07:49 PM   #30
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Just because I don't think this topic has been beat to death enough, I'm bringing it back to the top. I'm in contact with Mr. Stern about headlight upgrades that are worth doing.

The least expensive setup is HIR (Halogen Infrared Reflection). Same mechanical dimensions as the stock bulbs and they don't modify the beam pattern! You can use your stock housings and they're stock wattage too.

There's also a TRUE bi-Xenon setup for the WK that includes new housings. They are also self-leveling and are come in black, but chrome bezels are optional. Pricey, but what do you expect for the real deal?

I have the HIR lamps on order, but I am looking into the Xenon setup too.
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