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Old 05-05-2009, 08:34 PM   #16
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Haha, well that works. It's stinks that the auto tranny hangs so low. I gues I'll just use the stock engine skid until I can afford the rokmen to match the TT... Who knows


EDIT: Does anybody have an auto with the TT/engine skid that could show me where the tranny sits in comparison to the skids?

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Old 05-06-2009, 08:17 AM   #17
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Just curious, do all TJ belly-ups hang so low or is Rokmen's lower than others? The belly-up kits for the YJ's seem like they get things a little higher (pic below is Tera-Flex kit). Are any of the TJ belly-ups almost flat between the frame rails? Sorry for the hi-jack...

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Old 05-06-2009, 09:18 AM   #18
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Just curious, do all TJ belly-ups hang so low or is Rokmen's lower than others? The belly-up kits for the YJ's seem like they get things a little higher (pic below is Tera-Flex kit). Are any of the TJ belly-ups almost flat between the frame rails? Sorry for the hi-jack...
To go completely flat, a TJ would either need at least a 2" body lift (which most people don't like the looks of), or 1" body lift and some cutting of the tub to accommodate the higher driveline.
So yes, we can go flat, but just with more work. The Rokmen skid gave me about 2-3" in clearance over stock, which I am quite happy with.
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:59 PM   #19
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well, the skid is the tummy tuck. and a body lift helps, not required though.
well, I learned something new. I always thought the act of raising the tranny/TC was called the TT, not the skid itself. I always thought a BL/ML was required too.


2 more questions.....

If you don't go with a body lift, then what modifications are needed? I looked at the videos on Rokmen.com and (if I remember correctly) it's a straight bolt on if you have a 1" BL/MML already installed. I think this is true for their gas tank skid.

2nd question. How much clearance do you gain vs the shovel without a 1"BL? Obviously you will have more gain with a body lift, but was just curious how much clearance one would get if they didn't go that route.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:12 PM   #20
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well, I learned something new. I always thought the act of raising the tranny/TC was called the TT, not the skid itself. I always thought a BL/ML was required too.


2 more questions.....

If you don't go with a body lift, then what modifications are needed? I looked at the videos on Rokmen.com and (if I remember correctly) it's a straight bolt on if you have a 1" BL/MML already installed. I think this is true for their gas tank skid.

2nd question. How much clearance do you gain vs the shovel without a 1"BL? Obviously you will have more gain with a body lift, but was just curious how much clearance one would get if they didn't go that route.
A tummy tuck is raising the tranny and TC, but since the TC is bolted to the skid, a high clearance skid plate is what raises the drivetrain, giving you more clearance.
A BL/MML is not required if you don't mind doing the extra modifications to the tub of the Jeep to fit the tranny/TC. Because those are raised, there is not enoughroom between the body sheet metal and the tranny/TC. SO you either have to make a cut-out, or "massage" the sheet metal with a hammer.

I gained about 2.5" with the Rokmen skid compared to my stock skid.
Body lift or not, you gain the same clearance with the Rokmen skid.
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Iron Rock Off Road HD tie-rod - Warn M8000 - Tom Wood's rear CV shaft - Rokmen high clearance belly skid -
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:20 PM   #21
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Body lift or not, you gain the same clearance with the Rokmen skid.
So in other words, a body lift just makes it a lot easier.

Appreciate the info. Thanks.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:21 PM   #22
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Anybody running the TT on an auto here...?
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:21 PM   #23
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So in other words, a body lift just makes it a lot easier.

Appreciate the info. Thanks.
MUCH easier
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Iron Rock Off Road HD tie-rod - Warn M8000 - Tom Wood's rear CV shaft - Rokmen high clearance belly skid -
Rokmen Mercenary Sliders - Rokmen engine/tranny skid - Rokmen steering box skid - Rokmen Mercenary front bumper


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Old 05-06-2009, 06:22 PM   #24
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Anybody running the TT on an auto here...?
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Full Traction rear tri-link conversion - Rusty's quick disconnects - JKS 1.25" BL - JKS 1" MML - Nth diff skid -
Iron Rock Off Road HD tie-rod - Warn M8000 - Tom Wood's rear CV shaft - Rokmen high clearance belly skid -
Rokmen Mercenary Sliders - Rokmen engine/tranny skid - Rokmen steering box skid - Rokmen Mercenary front bumper


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Old 05-06-2009, 06:25 PM   #25
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Okay cool, so obviously you know that the auto tranny hangs pretty low, almost as low as the transfer case with the stock skid. I feel like if the TT lifts up the t-case and gains around 2.5" of clearance, than the tranny will hang lower than the TT skid. Maybe you can give me a little insight into this...Thanks
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:28 PM   #26
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Since the TC is bolted to the tranny, raising the TC will also raise the tranny. Coupled with a MML, everything will be raised at least 1".
My engine/tranny skid is at the highest setting (two heights) and it is flush with the belly skid.
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Iron Rock Off Road HD tie-rod - Warn M8000 - Tom Wood's rear CV shaft - Rokmen high clearance belly skid -
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:31 PM   #27
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Ohhh okay, I didn't know the TC and tranny were bolted together. I have a 1" body lift, but no MMl, will I still be fine do you think?
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:05 PM   #28
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One other question.

Does a tummy tuck also require a SYE install? I'm guessing yes since the axles will be that much lower (SL + BL/MML/TT) than the driveline.



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Old 05-07-2009, 01:58 PM   #29
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^ no problem, I'm hijacking my own thread too...
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:20 PM   #30
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One other question.

Does a tummy tuck also require a SYE install? I'm guessing yes since the axles will be that much lower (SL + BL/MML/TT) than the driveline.



Sorry for the hijack LGriffith
If you don't have a suspension lift at all (stock suspension), then you don't need an SYE, But if you do have a suspension lift of any kind then you will need one, rubicons are obviously exempt from this since they come stock with a fixed yoke/CV shaft...
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