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Unread 10-30-2013, 12:38 PM   #2776
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Is there a thread for this conversation?

And how does mud ruin stuff? Just the rust factor? I always felt that the rocks are where the breakage happens since mud is soft and rocks are... Rocks. About the part of keeping it clean, that is the only part i dont like. My interior gets horrible after a couple of trips out and it usually takes an entire day to get clean again. But my undercarraige doesnt seem to mind

Picture for the thread, also happens to be my mainset of trails for mudding haha



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Unread 10-30-2013, 12:41 PM   #2777
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And how does mud ruin stuff? Just the rust factor? I always felt that the rocks are where the breakage happens since mud is soft and rocks are... Rocks. About the part of keeping it clean, that is the only part i dont like. My interior gets horrible after a couple of trips out and it usually takes an entire day to get clean again. But my undercarraige doesnt seem to mind
Damage can be to bearings and gears. Hell any moving parts. Proper clean up helps but like you said.....it can take awhile.
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Unread 10-30-2013, 01:29 PM   #2778
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Unread 10-30-2013, 01:44 PM   #2779
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Unread 10-30-2013, 01:56 PM   #2780
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Whats everyones problem with mudding on here?
For me personally - Its because the majority of people in WI that go "Mudding" are drunk welfare leeches that do it anywhere they please. This includes private property, corn fields, State parks/forests... or anywhere else they can get ther Ford F150. All while tossing beer bottles out the window. Its not like they are doing it on a closed course or fixing the damage they did.



I also dont think its environmentally responsible, I try to stick to the Tread Lightly policy. Mudding is about the single most destructive offroading. Mudding white trash are the #1 reason offroading gets such a bad wrap in the public eye and the primary reason we all loose 4x4 access to public land.

Thats my opinion... dont get your panites in a bunch about it.
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Unread 10-30-2013, 02:02 PM   #2781
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Unread 10-30-2013, 02:04 PM   #2782
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For me personally - Its because the majority of people in WI that go "Mudding" are drunk welfare leeches that do it anywhere they please. This includes private property, corn fields, State parks/forests... or anywhere else they can get ther Ford F150. All while tossing beer bottles out the window. Its not like they are doing it on a closed course or fixing the damage they did. I also dont think its environmentally responsible, I try to stick to the Tread Lightly policy. Mudding is about the single most destructive offroading there is. Thats my opinion... dont get your panites in a bunch about it.
Agreed :-D we really need to Clean up after our selfs, if we don't they close trails and areas, it happened to us out at blacks creek area around Boise and it sucks. Tread lightly is a way of life or we will lose our way Sent from my iPhone using JeepForum
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Unread 10-30-2013, 02:08 PM   #2783
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For me personally - Its because the majority of people in WI that go "Mudding" are drunk welfare leeches that do it anywhere they please. This includes private property, corn fields, State parks/forests... or anywhere else they can get ther Ford F150. All while tossing beer bottles out the window. Its not like they are doing it on a closed course or fixing the damage they did.

I also dont think its environmentally responsible, I try to stick to the Tread Lightly policy. Mudding is about the single most destructive offroading there is. I would say muddin white trash are the #1 reason offroading gets such a bad wrap in the publics eye.

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Agreed :-D we really need to Clean up after our selfs, if we don't they close trails and areas, it happened to us out at blacks creek area around Boise and it sucks. Tread lightly is a way of life or we will lose out way

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Unread 10-30-2013, 02:22 PM   #2784
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This is the only "Mudding" I approve of

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Unread 10-30-2013, 02:34 PM   #2785
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This is the only "Mudding" I approve of
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Unread 10-30-2013, 02:58 PM   #2786
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Unread 10-30-2013, 03:08 PM   #2787
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For me personally - Its because the majority of people in WI that go "Mudding" are drunk welfare leeches that do it anywhere they please. This includes private property, corn fields, State parks/forests... or anywhere else they can get ther Ford F150. All while tossing beer bottles out the window. Its not like they are doing it on a closed course or fixing the damage they did.



I also dont think its environmentally responsible, I try to stick to the Tread Lightly policy. Mudding is about the single most destructive offroading. Mudding white trash are the #1 reason offroading gets such a bad wrap in the public eye and the primary reason we all loose 4x4 access to public land.

Thats my opinion... dont get your panites in a bunch about it.
Hahaha your name is ih8pepl, anyone that gets their panties in a bunch from something you say has got some problems. Just tryin to find out why mudding is so frowned upon on here.

Personally i think drinking and doing any type of wheeling is dumb, so obviously i dont support throwing beer cans. And i agree with the tread lightly idea, but is it really that bad for the environment if i move some mud back a few feet? I dont consider littering, ruining stateland, and getting drunk to be going mudding. Ive talked to a d.e.c. Officer while in my jeep going to a mudhole out on stateland, if the officer didnt care (she didnt) then im pretty sure im not hurting any land.

And yeah the mudhole is out on stateland but only after a hill that is literally impossible to get over or around without already having a lifted jeep or truck. And if the mud is already there, me driving through it wont make it any worse for people
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Unread 10-30-2013, 05:00 PM   #2788
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Hahaha your name is ih8pepl, anyone that gets their panties in a bunch from something you say has got some problems. Just tryin to find out why mudding is so frowned upon on here.

Personally i think drinking and doing any type of wheeling is dumb, so obviously i dont support throwing beer cans. And i agree with the tread lightly idea, but is it really that bad for the environment if i move some mud back a few feet?
Im a responsible offroader, you are too, as well as most of JF members... What it boils down to is Responsible Offroaders vs Drunk Tards... and there are too many drunk tards ruining it for all of us.

Someone post up some scenery pics to get us back on track.
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Unread 10-30-2013, 05:09 PM   #2789
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Unread 10-30-2013, 05:16 PM   #2790
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Dam that's a awsome pic what camera did u use to take that
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