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Unread 05-10-2013, 04:53 AM   #1831
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I think your dogs are saying, "What? The ride is over?"
Haha they were barking at me to let them out and play!

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Unread 05-10-2013, 01:13 PM   #1832
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One of my favs, I really need to take more pics!
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Unread 05-10-2013, 02:00 PM   #1833
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One of my favs, I really need to take more pics!
Yah you do!!

if only gas was cheaper
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Unread 05-10-2013, 02:21 PM   #1834
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Yah you do!!

if only gas was cheaper
Yea lol jeeps taken a spot on the back burner for teh past few months, but I'm starting to get back into tinkering with her again.
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Unread 05-14-2013, 02:51 PM   #1835
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One of my favs, I really need to take more pics!
You are lost. The grocery store was back about fifty yards at the pavement.
Don't stress tho'. A Wrangler will be by sooner or later to help you back to solid ground.



Sorry. Couldn't resist.
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Unread 05-14-2013, 08:12 PM   #1836
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You are lost. The grocery store was back about fifty yards at the pavement.
Don't stress tho'. A Wrangler will be by sooner or later to help you back to solid ground.



Sorry. Couldn't resist.
There might be a reason the YJ was replaced with the TJ that used the same type of 4 link setup ZJs had 4 years prior...
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Unread 05-15-2013, 07:48 AM   #1837
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Unread 05-15-2013, 08:15 AM   #1838
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Toss up between two:

Or letting my Dad take it for a spin
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Unread 05-15-2013, 09:02 AM   #1839
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The one with your dad is better. More depth and besides, it has your dad in it.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 09:11 AM   #1840
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There might be a reason the YJ was replaced with the TJ that used the same type of 4 link setup ZJs had 4 years prior...
Yeah.. There was a reason.
Seems the Starbucks generation didn't want a rugged dependable suspension. They wanted a smooth car like ride that comes with coil springs, and cup holders. Don't forget they added cup holders just for them. And trying to break little Suzie of using a sippy cup worked better with coils over those mall speed bumps.
That, and the coil suspension system was much more expensive and vulnerable to breakage, so the stealership service departments and parts departments made more money. Win win for everybody.

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Unread 05-15-2013, 10:58 AM   #1841
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Yeah.. There was a reason.
Seems the Starbucks generation didn't want a rugged dependable suspension. They wanted a smooth car like ride that comes with coil springs, and cup holders. Don't forget they added cup holders just for them. And trying to break little Suzie of using a sippy cup worked better with coils over those mall speed bumps.
That, and the coil suspension system was much more expensive and vulnerable to breakage, so the stealership service departments and parts departments made more money. Win win for everybody.

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Its ok Rik I too would be mad if my Jeep had old covered wagon suspension technology under it. Its a shame that a "ZJ" the acclaimed " Mini Van" of the Jeep world could have such a far superior suspension system than your YJ.

Hope to see you on the trail..... Oh I mean at the MALL sometime

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Unread 05-15-2013, 11:11 AM   #1842
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Yeah.. There was a reason.
Seems the Starbucks generation didn't want a rugged dependable suspension. They wanted a smooth car like ride that comes with coil springs, and cup holders. Don't forget they added cup holders just for them. And trying to break little Suzie of using a sippy cup worked better with coils over those mall speed bumps.
That, and the coil suspension system was much more expensive and vulnerable to breakage, so the stealership service departments and parts departments made more money. Win win for everybody.

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These are the things people without try to talk down because they're jeleous they don't have them...
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Unread 05-15-2013, 02:09 PM   #1843
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Yeah.. There was a reason.
Seems the Starbucks generation didn't want a rugged dependable suspension. They wanted a smooth car like ride that comes with coil springs, and cup holders. Don't forget they added cup holders just for them. And trying to break little Suzie of using a sippy cup worked better with coils over those mall speed bumps.
That, and the coil suspension system was much more expensive and vulnerable to breakage, so the stealership service departments and parts departments made more money. Win win for everybody.

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Wow. Wonder if the same argument was used when people switched to rubber tires. The wooden ones were so much more reliable (stupid yuppies and their smooth ride). Big conspiracy by the parts department to make money on the tires too. Stupid innovation
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Unread 05-15-2013, 02:34 PM   #1844
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Yeah.. There was a reason.
Seems the Starbucks generation didn't want a rugged dependable suspension. They wanted a smooth car like ride that comes with coil springs, and cup holders. Don't forget they added cup holders just for them. And trying to break little Suzie of using a sippy cup worked better with coils over those mall speed bumps.
That, and the coil suspension system was much more expensive and vulnerable to breakage, so the stealership service departments and parts departments made more money. Win win for everybody.

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So the dude who owns a crappy YJ is giving ***** to a dude in a Cherokee? Of all the jeeps a YJ would be the last one I would own. The only thing good that came from a YJ is the leaf springs and family roll bar. I may consider the tub if I needed one but what makes your YJ so superior?
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Unread 05-15-2013, 02:38 PM   #1845
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Its ok Rik I too would be mad if my Jeep had old covered wagon suspension technology under it. Its a shame that a "ZJ" the acclaimed " Mini Van" of the Jeep world could have such a far superior suspension system than your YJ.

Hope to see you on the trail..... Oh I mean at the MALL sometime

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Can't take a YJ to the mall. If you go over a speed bump with leaf springs it will jar your fillings out of your teeth. lol
That is one fine looking ZJ you have there. I would be proud to own that for sure. Great job.

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These are the things people without try to talk down because they're jeleous they don't have them...
Nah, not jealous. I'm very happy with my rig.

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Wow. Wonder if the same argument was used when people switched to rubber tires. The wooden ones were so much more reliable (stupid yuppies and their smooth ride). Big conspiracy by the parts department to make money on the tires too. Stupid innovation
Leaf springs have been around LONG before the covered wagon of the 19th century. History dates them to pre 16th century. They must still be good because every truck still uses them from all manufacturers. They are heavy duty and maintenance free.

All that said, I just like to bag on them because people are so sensitive about the subject. My Chevy Avalanche has coils all around and it rides more like a car than a truck. I'm OK with that because I don't haul much more than bails of hay in it, or luggage for a long trip.
Coil setups CAN articulate better than MOST leaf sprung vehicles. I'm just partial to the more rigid Jeep like ride mine has.
The earlier Jeep XJ station wagons used leafs in the rear and coils in the front. I think that is the ideal setup. Apparently Jeep does too. That is what they use on the military version Wrangler with the diesel drive train. Wish they would sell them here in the US.

It was fun messing with you guys. Sorry to side track the thread.
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