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Unread 01-22-2013, 11:57 PM   #151
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To me, expedition jeep simply means a Jeep you take on expeditions. Why complicate it?

I backpack a lot, which influences how I pack. Most people pack an absurd amount of crap. If I can fit 2 weeks worth of comfortable living in my backpack, I can certainly fit it into my Jeep. Althought they make it LOOK more expo, I have no need for a rooftop tent or snorkel.

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Unread 01-23-2013, 08:51 AM   #152
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To me, expedition jeep simply means a Jeep you take on expeditions. Why complicate it?

I backpack a lot, which influences how I pack. Most people pack an absurd amount of crap. If I can fit 2 weeks worth of comfortable living in my backpack, I can certainly fit it into my Jeep. Althought they make it LOOK more expo, I have no need for a rooftop tent or snorkel.
Once again, I was not trying to start anything, but I was trying to see it I fit in. I have been backpacking since I was in my early teens and have gone on many amazing trips. My LJ is a pretty all around jeep with a focus on certains terrains but I am trying to make it an all around expo type jeep. This is my last trip. About 500 mile round trip (sadly it was cut short). Under all that junk/tools/spare parts is a pretty good modular packing system.





and from the next camp site over on the tow rig. RTT from TJM.

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Unread 01-23-2013, 08:52 AM   #153
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I know the expo definition very well and have been living this life style since I bought my first jeep. I can carry up to a weeks worth of supplies for myself, but would not call it expo. My question was what constitutes an expedition jeep in this thread? Meaning, most of these jeeps are just jeeps. When I think expedition, I think a carry all mule that has the capabilities to let you live for days if not weeks with modern amenities to make your outdoor living better than just primitive camping. Since lo2ay's LJ was brought up, that is similar to what I would call expo.



Once again, what you describe is a trail riding jeep. Not purpose built, but a good all around jeep without crazy tires and such. How are you all living out of these jeeps?
Your first post you stated that you were not trying to flame anyone. I think maybe how you worded your statements it could be taken a bit negative. Then your second post where you quoted people you was a bit condescending. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe the question you are asking is,

Along with the photos of these Jeeps posted what else, if anything have YOU done to YOUR Jeep that makes it better for Overland type travel?

Different areas if the country or world require curtain needs in gear, supplies, and modification. It would be a better idea to maybe list modifications to the Jeep, cargo area, and what you carry and amount of time you've found yourself living from the Jeep. That's what I like to know about everyone's Jeep. Also how you sleep? Are you in, under, on top, next to it, or with in eye sight?
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Unread 01-23-2013, 09:27 AM   #154
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What constitutes an expedition jeep for this thread? A lot of these would just be jeeps to me. I am not trying to flame anyone but.... Just curious.
"expo rig" to me conjures images of rigs with any of the following attributes:

- is built with a balance of both off-road capability and on-road drive-ability in mind. (i.e. a rig built for king-of-the-hammers likely has sacrificed at least some on road comfort for it's off-road ability and would not be fit for constant expedition use)

- is built with dependability in mind. you shouldn't set out to be a day or more from civilization with a complete POS beater.

- is built with load carrying capability in mind. whether that means a roof rack, tire carrier, or interior dedicated storage depends on the individuals requirements. if you're riding solo, you can throw firewood in the floorboard (though you need a good way to lash it down), but if you're with multiple people for days on end, you may need a roof rack.

- has modifications that make extended camping more convenient. maybe it's a full-on roof top tent, or an on-board shower, or even something as simple as a fold-down table.

- has modifications to better enable self-reliance. perhaps dual batteries to self-jump in case of a dead main, other redundant systems or even just well organized dedicated storage for spare parts and tools.

those are just some examples, not every expo rig has to look the same. i go on multi-day expeditions several times a year and i don't have a roof-top-tent. a RTT wouldn't work well for the daily driver duty my rig sees, or even for the hub-n-spoke type trips. but i wheel with some older folks that wouldn't be able to walk after a couple days of sleeping on the ground, so a RTT is key to them. some guys even pull modified military trailers with RTTs on them. a trailer better distributes your load, but can be a PITA on certain trails, so again it's not for me but some love it.
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Unread 05-06-2013, 05:24 PM   #155
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Unread 05-06-2013, 07:16 PM   #156
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Agreed. I'll try and find some of our pictures from Big Bend!
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Unread 05-06-2013, 07:43 PM   #157
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here is a pic of the xj before my last trip with central overland I love this style and as far as the snorkel its for piece of mind I never purposely try to sink the xj but S$^t happens and I like the 10-15 seconds to try to get out of what stupidity got me into. im keeping the interior as plain as possible I sleep in the jeep with a small mattress and strap my gear down on top of the mattress when traveling my camp set up is un loading the xj.
most of these have been on the forum already







some are from last year



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Unread 05-06-2013, 08:29 PM   #158
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Pics are from EJS. My build goal is a cross between a rock crawler and an expo rig, I usually don't camp more than 3 or 4 nights at a time. Those trips are usually to wheeling spots. Plan on running the Kokopelli Trail and White Rim this spring/fall.
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Unread 05-06-2013, 09:05 PM   #159
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nice pics wish it was closer
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Unread 05-07-2013, 12:02 AM   #160
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Unread 05-08-2013, 12:19 PM   #161
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To me, expedition jeep simply means a Jeep you take on expeditions. Why complicate it?
This.
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Unread 05-09-2013, 05:35 AM   #162
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im keeping the interior as plain as possible I sleep in the jeep with a small mattress and strap my gear down on top of the mattress when traveling my camp set up is un loading the xj.


Very cool !!

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Pics are from EJS. My build goal is a cross between a rock crawler and an expo rig, I usually don't camp more than 3 or 4 nights at a time. Those trips are usually to wheeling spots. Plan on running the Kokopelli Trail and White Rim this spring/fall.
Nice ... Looks good so far.

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work in progress, but getting there.
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Yeah I hear you. I think every Jeep is a "work in progress .. only the degree of work varies"

I'm currently saving for a deep cycle battery hoping to be ready for a three day run west in 3 weeks.
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Unread 05-09-2013, 07:48 PM   #163
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Nice

Nice Jeeps all. Love the WJ's as I've got one myself an 02 WJ Overland. Which I'm mending her broken parts { power steering pump, window reg x 2, alternator, heater core and A/C evap.}

Any suggestions to save time and money are much appreciated.
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Unread 06-29-2013, 11:58 AM   #164
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Unread 06-29-2013, 12:39 PM   #165
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To me, expedition jeep simply means a Jeep you take on expeditions. Why complicate it?

I backpack a lot, which influences how I pack. Most people pack an absurd amount of crap. If I can fit 2 weeks worth of comfortable living in my backpack, I can certainly fit it into my Jeep. Althought they make it LOOK more expo, I have no need for a rooftop tent or snorkel.
I think of "overland" as a build style like the rock crawler look popular now or the pre-runner (southwest) style or the "mud hawg" style. I am saying style but it is a functional difference that lends to the different look or style. The current amalgam/generic sport style with big flares, huge fat, wide tires and mega lift was not always nor is it now universally the look/function some want.

To me, as I have seen the word used, "overland" is a functional style with smaller flares, taller, skinner tires tucked in, moderate clearance to the ground, overhead racks for equipment for extended overnight duration off road, sufficient lighting, usually heavy "bull" type front bumpers etc. An expedition is overland travel to a destination(s) for the purpose of exploring and reaching those destinations as opposed to "wheeling" which in and of itself is a sport/hobby not necessarily intended to reach a specific point but just to test ones's vehicle and driving skills on multiple surfaces or challenges. The resulting style of the vehicles might be significantly different as a result.

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