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Unread 08-07-2011, 08:36 AM   #1126
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Its okay i like it when people question my ways. It makes them wonder if they screw'd up when building there jeep, I've been looking on here and 3" lift with springs and coils to fit 35's.... kinda redunk-ulous. I see LCG ride'n on almost full droop and being flexy as hell(rock buggy style). But you know everyone has there own way to build there jeep. and I know alot of folks are going to question and BASH my ways.
You must be referring to your locked D35.

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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:56 AM   #1127
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I won't take it the wrong way, if you know how to get the top of the coil to stay seated please share, other wise on full droop I'l just deal with a spring come'n un seated for a bit, no biggy to me.
You have completely missed the point. You need longer springs which means, you are going to have to be lifted a tiny bit, or raise the spring perch, and add limiting straps. Unseating 4-6" is useless and 2" of uptravel is too. That's not LCOG, that's just low and done wrong.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 10:20 AM   #1128
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Swap for the 3.5" AEV springs. They are longer unsprung than my 4.5" RE's.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 10:38 AM   #1129
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Its okay i like it when people question my ways. It makes them wonder if they screw'd up when building there jeep, I've been looking on here and 3" lift with springs and coils to fit 35's.... kinda redunk-ulous. I see LCG ride'n on almost full droop and being flexy as hell(rock buggy style). But you know everyone has there own way to build there jeep. and I know alot of folks are going to question and BASH my ways.
That's because your "ways" are just completely incorrect. Period. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of what does and does not work properly and effectively, and what will and will not be durable. Spring unseating half a foot and a locked D35 are not correct and reliable methods of building a good rig.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 12:49 PM   #1130
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^ what he said
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Unread 08-07-2011, 01:41 PM   #1131
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Swap for the 3.5" AEV springs. They are longer unsprung than my 4.5" RE's.

AEV only makes 3" and 4.5" springs for TJ's

They do have 3.5" and 4.5" for JK's

But your right, there unsprung length is great.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 03:56 PM   #1132
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I drop my coils bout 4-6".... not too bad tho, I have coil retainers to keep the coils in there place.
I have less up travel than a stock Jeep cause my 100K mile springs are super saggy and I have a winch up front which doesn't help, I have 2" up travel til I hit bumpstop hard. I agree with you bout the longer track bar, it'll happen after the cage. & I did raise the front shock towers to allow extra room for the new shocks, I'l take some pics when I get a chance. The stock control arms do quite well with the stock track bar(flex wise), I do feel it bind a bit but nothing too bad, I'm starting to trailer the jeep to the parks so if I brake something(like track bar) its okay, than I'l buy a new nicer one. do you have any suggestions for a LCG track bar?
Longer track bar? Why would you want a longer track bar with stock springs?

Your track bar is made to center your axle under your jeep, the only time you run a longer track bar is when you lift your jeep. The higher you lift the jeep, the longer the track bar needs to be.

If you lift your jeep and run the stock front track bar in the hole that it came in from the factory then your axle will be off center and stick out more on the drivers side. That's why instead of buying an adjustable track bar a lot of people with 3" or less of suspension lift will drill a new hole closer to the drivers side of the current hole to center there axle.

The thing that I'm most worried about with your jeep is when your really flexing the front out and the spring is unseated and all the weight of your jeep shifts to the unseated side, and you flop.

I would also seriously consider running a rear sway bar, it's not hurting your flex with short arms and a track bar.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 04:45 PM   #1133
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^^^ more pics of fenders please!

Sorry wrong page lol I was referring to the color matched metalcloaks.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 06:57 AM   #1134
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That's because your "ways" are just completely incorrect. Period. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of what does and does not work properly and effectively, and what will and will not be durable. Spring unseating half a foot and a locked D35 are not correct and reliable methods of building a good rig.
Hey Heath! Nice rig, you got a build thread or more pics of that thing?

I lived in Bossier and Shreveport from 1984 to 1988. Was stationed at Barksdale. We lived in Quail Creek Apts lastly, but also on Valincia over in Shreveport. I bet it's changed a lot since then...
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Unread 08-08-2011, 07:24 AM   #1135
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snip...do you have any suggestions for a LCG track bar?...
make one... bout your best bet... i bought the jks builder tracbar and bent it myself to clear the diff. couldnt really find anything else that would clear with only 2.5" of lift and stock bump stops

you can kinda see it under there


youre wheelin on borrowed time with that much shock travel and stock susp, those bushings were never designed for that much deflection and that puts a ton of strain on the brackets... and to be honest, i find it hard to beleive youre even using all of it... IIRC the stock trac bar mount with the stock trac bar only allows like 6" on down travel. AND with my custom long arrm i max out my CV in the front ds at about 12" of down travel (so 14" from static ride height of a stock rig) and thats with a HP30 and much better pinion tracking than the stock geometry
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:06 AM   #1136
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youre wheelin on borrowed time with that much shock travel and stock susp, those bushings were never designed for that much deflection and that puts a ton of strain on the brackets... and to be honest, i find it hard to beleive youre even using all of it... IIRC the stock trac bar mount with the stock trac bar only allows like 6" on down travel. AND with my custom long arrm i max out my CV in the front ds at about 12" of down travel (so 14" from static ride height of a stock rig) and thats with a HP30 and much better pinion tracking than the stock geometry
Exactofuc*inlutely.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:20 AM   #1137
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make one... bout your best bet... i bought the jks builder tracbar and bent it myself to clear the diff. couldnt really find anything else that would clear with only 2.5" of lift and stock bump stops

you can kinda see it under there

youre wheelin on borrowed time with that much shock travel and stock susp, those bushings were never designed for that much deflection and that puts a ton of strain on the brackets... and to be honest, i find it hard to beleive youre even using all of it... IIRC the stock trac bar mount with the stock trac bar only allows like 6" on down travel. AND with my custom long arrm i max out my CV in the front ds at about 12" of down travel (so 14" from static ride height of a stock rig) and thats with a HP30 and much better pinion tracking than the stock geometry
Any more pictures? Sounds similar to where im going with mine.
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Any more pictures? Sounds similar to where im going with mine.
LOTS! check my build thread in my sig...

heres the JKS trac bar when i first did my Wj swap but still had stock susp geometry
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Unread 08-08-2011, 08:36 AM   #1139
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Hey Heath! Nice rig, you got a build thread or more pics of that thing?

I lived in Bossier and Shreveport from 1984 to 1988. Was stationed at Barksdale. We lived in Quail Creek Apts lastly, but also on Valincia over in Shreveport. I bet it's changed a lot since then...
Thanks. No I really don't have any more recent pics other than what's already posted in the thread. Yeah it's changed for sure. That Shreve City area you used to live in has been through about 9 lives. The old Bennie Hannas is a gym now, they tore down Dillards, the major part of that spot is a Wal-Mart now, and the movie theater is a furniture store.
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Unread 08-08-2011, 11:40 AM   #1140
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LOTS! check my build thread in my sig...

heres the JKS trac bar when i first did my Wj swap but still had stock susp geometry
Thanks, I thought those looked like WJ knuckles. Sweet build man.
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