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Unread 02-17-2014, 12:35 PM   #2641
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Guys trying to c o a lcg. Uikd on my wrangler. Does any company make a complete 2inch lift kit, springs shocks, bumpstops, trackbar relocation bracket, etc etc, or am I going to be forced to put one together ?

Thanks in advance.

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Teraflex has some fairly complete 3" kits but I haven't seen any all inclusive 2" kits.

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Unread 02-17-2014, 12:40 PM   #2642
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thanks ^. but im going to stick to a two inch lift. bds springs and shocks. a good rear track bar relocator. seems like its all i need to complete a 2' lift. deff inspired by all these lcog builds !

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Unread 02-17-2014, 01:37 PM   #2643
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Check out DPG off-road and talk to Dirk. OME has a pretty complete kit or will help you put one together based on what YOU need, not what they want to sell.

Otherwise contact Northridge 4x4 as well, they can help you put it together as well. I talked to both, and ended up buying through Northridge, but both can put something together for you in that size lift.
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Unread 02-17-2014, 02:02 PM   #2644
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Less talk more pics...

Clean Lines TJ from JP mag. 14" CO's in front and 2" OME coils in back on 40's.
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Unread 02-17-2014, 06:24 PM   #2645
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Less talk more pics...

Clean Lines TJ from JP mag. 14" CO's in front and 2" OME coils in back on 40's.
I saw that one in JP Magazine too. So sick. Give me one like that, a little lower, on 37s and I'd be set.


For the sake of the picture train, here are a few of my favorite low gravity rigs (hopefully the owners don't mind me posting):

-sean-'s old TJ



Any of Chris Durham's builds



And project Acrophobia on Pirate 4x4
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Unread 03-01-2014, 11:13 AM   #2646
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I've spent several evenings reading through this thread. The one that stands out to me is when I see specs, a vast majority that don't have highlines fenders post their coil size and tire size but make no mention of shocks or bumpstops. This leads me to believe that most people just bump stop the heck of it and limit up travel?
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Unread 03-01-2014, 11:17 AM   #2647
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I've spent several evenings reading through this thread. The one that stands out to me is when I see specs, a vast majority post their coil size and tire size but make no mention of shocks or bumpstops. This leads me to believe that most people just bump stop the heck of it and limit up travel?
Ideally. You would cycle the suspension to adjust where you would actually need the bump stops to be. Sometimes the bump stop locations themselves are changed, so stating you have a 2" bumpstop would be different to some others, which might be why no one really mentions that.
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Unread 03-01-2014, 11:33 AM   #2648
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Ideally. You would cycle the suspension to adjust where you would actually need the bump stops to be. Sometimes the bump stop locations themselves are changed, so stating you have a 2" bumpstop would be different to some others, which might be why no one really mentions that.
I understand that cycling the suspension is the correct to measure for bumpstops and that bumpstops length will differ my to Jeep to Jeep in regards to stock mounting locations. but ....
It seems to me most people don't post bumpstop lengths out of fear of ridicule from board members or its something they just don't consider.
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Unread 03-01-2014, 12:29 PM   #2649
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Ideally. You would cycle the suspension to adjust where you would actually need the bump stops to be. Sometimes the bump stop locations themselves are changed, so stating you have a 2" bumpstop would be different to some others, which might be why no one really mentions that.
Ya that's one thing that has a lot if variables and things get confusing to try and replicate. Out boarding, shock extensions, bump on top or bottom, how much, custom height bumps.

That's why I think the frame height measurement is a constant giving an idea of lift regardless of spring, which themselves can vary or be worn out depending on brand.
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Unread 03-01-2014, 12:44 PM   #2650
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I've spent several evenings reading through this thread. The one that stands out to me is when I see specs, a vast majority that don't have highlines fenders post their coil size and tire size but make no mention of shocks or bumpstops. This leads me to believe that most people just bump stop the heck of it and limit up travel?
Not really.

To run 35s on a TJ, the minimum extended bumpstop needed is around:

3" with stock flares and no body lift
2.5" with stock flares and a 1.25" body lift
1" with high lined fenders and a 1.25" body lift
0" with high lined tube fenders and no body lift


Sample bumpstop lengths needed if shocks are run in the stock position:

OME N66 22.25/13.25" 9.25" travel, stock bumpstop length
OME N67 22 /13.25" 8.75" travel, 1.25" bumpstop requirement
OME N66L 26.5/15.5" 11" travel, 2" bumpstop requirement
OME N67L 24.5/14.5" 10 travel, 2.5" or more bumpstop requirement

Bilstein BE52731 24/14.8" 9.25" travel 1" bumpstop requirement
Bilstein BE52732 23/14.5 8.5" travel 2.5" or more bumpstop.

BDS 55975 F 22.92 in. 13.92 in. 9 in travel, 2" LIFT 1" bumpstop requirement
BDS 55975 R 21.70 in. 13.42 in. 8.28 in travel, 2" LIFT 1" bumpstop requirement
BDS 55965 F 24.90 in. 14.80 in. 10.1 in travel, 3" LIFT, 1" bumpstop requirement
BDS 55980 R 22.95 in. 14.67 in. 8.28 in travel, 3" LIFT, 2.5" or more bumpstop


These are just samples. Your situation may vary depending on wheel backspacing, width and style of tube fenders, etc.

However, as you can see, many of the shocks above for a 3" lift require sufficient extended bumpstops that 35s can be run with a 1.25" body lift and tube fenders, no problem.

Now, if you high line tube fenders, run a 1.25" body lift, and relocate your shock mounts, 35s with stock length bumpstops are fine in many cases.
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Unread 03-01-2014, 01:20 PM   #2651
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Not really.

To run 35s on a TJ, the minimum extended bumpstop needed is around:

3" with stock flares and no body lift
2.5" with stock flares and a 1.25" body lift
1" with high lined fenders and a 1.25" body lift
0" with high lined tube fenders and no body lift


Sample bumpstop lengths needed if shocks are run in the stock position:

OME N66 22.25/13.25" 9.25" travel, stock bumpstop length
OME N67 22 /13.25" 8.75" travel, 1.25" bumpstop requirement
OME N66L 26.5/15.5" 11" travel, 2" bumpstop requirement
OME N67L 24.5/14.5" 10 travel, 2.5" or more bumpstop requirement

Bilstein BE52731 24/14.8" 9.25" travel 1" bumpstop requirement
Bilstein BE52732 23/14.5 8.5" travel 2.5" or more bumpstop.

BDS 55975 F 22.92 in. 13.92 in. 9 in travel, 2" LIFT 1" bumpstop requirement
BDS 55975 R 21.70 in. 13.42 in. 8.28 in travel, 2" LIFT 1" bumpstop requirement
BDS 55965 F 24.90 in. 14.80 in. 10.1 in travel, 3" LIFT, 1" bumpstop requirement
BDS 55980 R 22.95 in. 14.67 in. 8.28 in travel, 3" LIFT, 2.5" or more bumpstop


These are just samples. Your situation may vary depending on wheel backspacing, width and style of tube fenders, etc.

However, as you can see, many of the shocks above for a 3" lift require sufficient extended bumpstops that 35s can be run with a 1.25" body lift and tube fenders, no problem.

Now, if you high line tube fenders, run a 1.25" body lift, and relocate your shock mounts, 35s with stock length bumpstops are fine in many cases.
It's starting to get through my thick head now. I forgot to include the body lift. I just cycled the suspension in the front. Looks like I need 3 - 3.25 bumpstop extensions to clear 35" tires. Trackbar clears fine as well. This is with OME #934, a 1.25 BL, and stock fenders.
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Unread 03-02-2014, 07:11 AM   #2652
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I understand that cycling the suspension is the correct to measure for bumpstops and that bumpstops length will differ my to Jeep to Jeep in regards to stock mounting locations. but ....
It seems to me most people don't post bumpstop lengths out of fear of ridicule from board members or its something they just don't consider.
"Bump stop length" isn't a number that really matters. I couldn't even tell you my number because I just don't care. I can give you measurements that matter, though. 20" to the frame on 37" tires with 5.5" of up travel in the front and 6.5" of up travel in the rear. At full, hard bump in the front my upper link tab is 1/2" from the AC compressor and in the rear my upper link tabs are 1/4" from the tub. The bump stops were setup to prevent those points of contact from ever meeting. The shock mounts were set up to agree with those constraints and my shock length was chosen to agree with my coil length.
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That's why I think the frame height measurement is a constant giving an idea of lift regardless of spring, which themselves can vary or be worn out depending on brand.
This. "Lift height" is rather 'elementary' once you get to this level and doesn't tell anyone anything of value. Frame rail height is an all-encompassing, universal measurement that doesn't lie. A stock TJ on true 28" tires is 14" from the ground to the frame rails.
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Unread 03-07-2014, 02:17 PM   #2653
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Unread 03-07-2014, 10:52 PM   #2654
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Not sure if it qualifies for LCOG, but it is on 35s with 2.5 inches of lift.
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Unread 03-09-2014, 01:37 PM   #2655
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