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post #1 of 9 Old 05-07-2012, 04:10 PM Thread Starter
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Walker Valley Trip Report - 5-5-2012 (WA)


Walker Valley ORV Park
Near Mt. Vernon, WA

May 5th, 2012

This Saturday was a good half-day of wheel'n. I finally got my TJ out on the trails again after no wheel'n all winter. And my friend got to try out his new JK Unlimited (4-door Wrangler) that he got a few months ago. He's been working on modifying it this winter with a lift, some 35" tires, skid plates and such. This Saturday we got to try it out. And it's a good thing he put the skid plates on.

The weather was somewhat cooperative on Saturday with only some overcast skies and just the barest of light rain fall. Later in the afternoon the clouds dissipated to reveal sunny blue skies. Yet the trails were nice and sloppily muddy. It made for more challenging trail conditions but then that is part of the fun.

We brought our two sons along with us (about 4 years old) and both had a great time out in the Jeeps on the trails. My son liked both the trail riding as well as the opportunity to get out of the Jeep. This happened frequently enough as we'd hop out to spot my friend in his JK over some obstacles. One of the first big obstacles was this steep climb over a slick stump root in the middle of a clear cut. In all honestly I didn't think I'd make it all the way up and over myself. The plan was to get the nose of my rig over the root and then winch up the rest of the way. But apparently I had enough traction. It took about 5-7 minutes of working it but I got my old TJ up and over. Then it was my friend's turn. After 15 minutes of trying we finally busted out the tow strap and I pulled him the rest of the way up and over the stump. Despite his dual locking axles and mud terrain tires it was just the odd particulars of the trail and his particular rig that he wasn't able to get over this obstacles. Under different conditions I don't doubt I'd be the one getting pulled by his JK. Once past this we continued on another 10 minutes until our lunch stop.

Further up the trail things had gotten more chewed up during the winter as we exited the clear cut and the trail disappeared into the trees again. We came across a section of trial with some nasty rocks stick up prominently, particularly right where the oil pan and belly of the Jeeps would be going. Fortunately I was able to thread my Jeep around and position it to take the least punishing line through the rocks. My friend wasn't so fortunate. With his longer wheelbase he wasn't able to get the rig rotated on the trail and ended up dragging his skid plates and frame right over the rocks with this gut wrenching "screeeeeEEEEAaaaach! Thud! Thud! ScreeeeeeeeEEee . . . . "

Then, 100 ft later there was a drop over a slight muddy rock ledge. I tagged my rear gas tank skid dropping over it but that was it. My friend, however, was treated to more scraping noises as his frame got hung up due to his reduced breakover angle. By the time we got done with this trail it was getting on into the afternoon and we only wanted to be out for a half day.

Damage to my Jeep was pretty much no-existant on this trip. My friend's JK, however, had some dented plastic bumper covers (expected, he's waiting on some aftermarket offroad bumpers), much scrapage, a torn front driveshaft dust boot, and a bent control arm bracket. We'll reinforce the bracket before the next run and address the torn boot, too.

Despite the JK Unlimited Wranglers being on the market since '07, this is the first time I've wheeled with one on the trails. It was great seeing how it moved and worked its way through the trails.

My friend's JK Unlimited approaching the first major obstacle, the
slimy stump root ledge.

Trying to get up the stump root.

Finally, I hooked up a tow strap and dragged him up the last little bit.

It's a good thing the Jeep doesn't have a fancy interior. And it's a good
thin the Britax's cover is easily removable and washable.

Nasty rocks, particularly the one in the middle of the trail, right
where the engine and tranny oil pans go.

It took some work but he got over it, but not without much scraping.

Pas those rocks . . . on down the trail.

MMmmm..... mud.

It's a good thing the tires stick out a much further than
the body. Not a scratch.

Side Note: It is interesting, but with his 3 1/2" lift and 35" tall tires my friend only has 1/4" more ground clearance in his JK than I do with 33" tires and a 2 1/2" tall lift in my TJ. By rights he should be at minimum about 2" taller than me but his gas tank skids hangs below the frame rails between the axles where as I run a low-profile skid plate. There just isn't a way I know of to do a belly-up skid conversion on the JKs. Also, despite nearly identical ground clearance under the belly of the rigs, he has about a 20-24" longer wheel base so his break-over angle is much reduced.

Which was borne out on the trails.

Things I barely scraped over or completely cleared he was dragging his frame over. It would make the most gut wrenching, metal-on-rock screeching noise. Also, while the longer wheelbase didn't give him problems much on the tight turns, it did make it a little more challenging to get his rig positioned on a good line.


- Jay
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Looks like a blast.
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Looks fun, don't have anything like that in IL
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The nice thing is that it's only about 1 hr north of downtown Seattle.

With the (hopefully) temporary closure of the Reiter area it's now the closest ORV area to our state's biggest city.

Not to worry, we have maybe a half dozen other ORV areas within a 2 hr drive of Seattle so lots of opportunities.

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Is that the only route through Walker? I was thinking I would want to try that this year, but now I'm not sure sure. I only have 32" MTR's and no lift.

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Um.... that's probably not the place for you, MysticAlpaca. There are some other trails but as of the weekend my friend and I went up, one of them was closed for maintenance. I'm not sure when it will reopen but probably later this season. Unfortunately, even the "easy" trails are getting a lot tougher up there.

My recommendation is to try:

Naches Trail
Opens mid-July to mid-November, verify with Enumclaw Ranger District. You should be able to handle it.

North Cle Elum Valley Trails
Open Mid / Late June, verify with Cle Elum Ranger District.

Liberty / Table Mountain Area

Manastash Ridge
Verify with the Cle Elum Ranger District if the roads are accessible. There were a lot of wash outs last may and I'm not sure they had the budget to fix all of the road closures. Also, the trails are burried under snow until late-may / mid-June. Assuming you can get to the trails, they should be navigable soon.

Washington Backroads Discovery Route
This is more of an "Overlanding" route from the Columbia Gorge to the Canadian border through some fireroads and trails in the Cascade mountains. Click here for more info.

Get your feet wet with some of the above trails before deciding if you want to go higher and bigger for the other trails.

Also, This Thread Has Trail Info And Directions to the major wheel'n areas around the state.

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I've heard conflicting information on Walker. It doesn't look to bad in the pics. I finally have a lift (4") and 33x12.50's and I want to actually go wheel my Jeep. A friend of mine went last weekend and said it was great but I have other friends that say I shouldn't because I'm gonna destroy my Jeep. Can I go have some fun there without trashing it? Are there go-arounds or exit points if I don't want to risk an obstacale? Thanks for the info and the pics
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You should be fine at Walker. At worse, just back up and turn around to exit the trail. Go with at least another rig (never go wheel'n alone), preferably with someone who has some experience AND a level head. Ahem.....

Some of the trails are rather tricky, others are pretty darn easy.

Just be sensible with your Jeep. Don't beat on it. Finesse it over obstacles and lay off the throttle.

A lot of damage occurs when guys get stupid, particularly with the go pedal. But do keep in mind that any time you take your Jeep offroad there is a risk of damage.

Anyways, I'd say give it a try.

Otherwise, check out the areas I mentioned above.

Also, I just ran this "route" a few days ago. It was uber easy but also very enjoyable. Interesting scenery and great company.

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