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Unread 08-20-2002, 06:27 PM   #1
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I know this isnt the appropriate forum and i know i keep asking questions about this subject, but i cant find a solid answer as to what years the wagoneers were wide tracks and what years they were narrow tracks. I believe the wide tracks are 62.5 inches wide, right? Oh yea im refering to the front dana 44. Thanks for any info.

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Unread 08-20-2002, 06:47 PM   #2
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Please post this in the Wagoneer forum or atleast the General Discussion Forum.
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Unread 08-21-2002, 07:33 AM   #3
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Well you've opened a can of worms here. At one time there was a really good/long thread on POR discussing/debating this.

Basically, what i've gathered and seen first hand... there is *no* wide track/narrow track wagoneer. *all* wagoneers have the same width axles (front being about 62.5"). wide/narrow track only applies to FSJ Cherokees.

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Unread 08-21-2002, 07:57 PM   #4
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Yep, Wagoneers/Grand Wagoneers were all narrow track. Full size Cherokees could be either wide or narrow.
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Unread 08-21-2002, 10:38 PM   #5
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This is from the YJ Faq found at BC4x4.com:

Wagoneer Axles
The best axles to swap into your YJ are found under a 86-91 Jeep
Grand Wagoneer. These are driver side on the front. Dana44 front and
rear 30 spline with front disc brakes.

The width is around 62" flange-to-flange. This is within 1.5" of
a stock D30/35.

The only thing you will likely need to do is get lower gears for them
as the Waggoneers were setup for highway gears (they were the Jeep
luxo wagons of their day).

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Unread 08-22-2002, 10:18 AM   #6
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AXLES
Front Axles
Model Year Availability Notes
D-27A 1962-70 Wagoneer
D-30 1971-73 Wagoneer
D-44 1962-88 All J-Trucks, 1974-92 Wagoneer/Cherokee/Grand Wagoneer
D-44 w/vacuum 1983-84 All except J-20 With Type 1 NP 229 or NP 228 transfer case disconnect


Rear Axles
Model Year Availability Notes
D-44 1962-79 All except X,Y,Z series trucks and J-20
1986-92 All except J-20 From late 1986
D-53 1962-68 X,Y series trucks only Semi-floating axle
D-60-2 1969-73 Trucks only Semi-floating axle
D-60 1969-88 Z series trucks Full-floating axle J-20 only
D-70 1962-68 Z series trucks only Full-floating axle
AMC 20 1980-86 All except J-20 Through early 1986

Only Wide tracks were Cherokees (I have a '78) and I think years 1977 to 1986 roughly. It was an option... Cherokees were also narrow track.

The wide tracks wouldn't work on your YJ anyways.... at least on my '78 it is a front passenger side drop on the front, and a slightly passenger side offset rear. When I got it I thought at worst I could drop the axles into my TJ. Whoops. If you had a CJ you would be in luck... there are even standard kits that require very little welding to mate wide tracks to the CJ.

Try www.ifsja.org. Awesome FSJ info.
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The wide tracks wouldn't work on your YJ anyways.... at least on my '78 it is a front passenger side drop on the front, and a slightly passenger side offset rear.
Any fullsize Jeep that is 1980 and newer is driver side drop. They are perfect for a YJ and doable on a TJ.
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Unread 08-22-2002, 01:38 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the replies they really helped me out.
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Unread 08-23-2002, 07:38 AM   #9
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Any fullsize Jeep that is 1980 and newer is driver side drop. They are perfect for a YJ and doable on a TJ.
Even the wide tracks? I didn't know that.

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Even the wide tracks? I didn't know that.

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Yes. In 1980 Jeep started using New Process transfer cases in all of the fullsizes including the pickups (all pickups are wide track). These transfer cases were all drivers side drop and this is why they switched sides on the front axles.
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