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post #1 of 16 Old 03-12-2013, 07:53 AM Thread Starter
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tires on stock wagoneer wheels

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/35-...&t_pn=PCT75035

can these fit on stock 15 inch wagoneer wheels ?

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post #2 of 16 Old 03-12-2013, 08:28 AM
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No, too wide. They will bulge, hit the springs, and not wear evenly.

A Wagoneer has a 6" wide wheel. BFG recommends a 8.5" to 12" wide wheel for tires that size. The widest tire BFG recommends for a 6"x15" rim is a 235/75R15, 29" tall.

1) '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps. 2) '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, KOs, 7600 GVWR 3) '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top 4) '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
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where would i be able to find a set of wheels to fit them ? im not sure the lug pattern on it, its an 87 grand wagoneer
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Lots of choices at Summit Racing. www.summitracing.com Wagoneers have 5 or 6 lugs on a 5.5" circle, with 3.5" factory backspacing.

Realize that you will need a lot of lift, and some fender trimming, to fit those tires on a Wagoneer.

1) '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps. 2) '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, KOs, 7600 GVWR 3) '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top 4) '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
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it is the 6 lug thanks
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or get some 33x10.50's, lots of people run 10.50's on 6" wide rims even though its against recommendations from the tire manufacturers.

Also, the factory alloys on a grand wag should be 7" if i'm not mistaken.

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Also, the factory alloys on a grand wag should be 7" if i'm not mistaken.
Somehow I thought that the Wagoneer alloys were the same as the steel wheels. The CJ alloys are 7" wide. I could be mistaken. Measure it. It's measured from inside bead to inside bead, roughly 1/2" different from the outside bead measurement.

1) '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps. 2) '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, KOs, 7600 GVWR 3) '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top 4) '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
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my 90 has factory 7" wide alloys. I ran my Goodyear duratrac 31x10.50 without a lift for a month without issue on the street, even hopped some curbs in traffic jams, now has 3" lift no issues at all.

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same here - factory alloys on my 74 Cherokee, no lift and 31/10,5/15 tires - no rubbing, no uneven wear.
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or get some 33x10.50's, lots of people run 10.50's on 6" wide rims even though its against recommendations from the tire manufacturers.

Also, the factory alloys on a grand wag should be 7" if i'm not mistaken.
I'm putting a 6inch lift on it the end of the month, than later down the road I am replacing my rubber body mounts and doing another 2 inch body lift, so I don't wanna go that small of tire
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I hear you, the 31x10.50 would look a bit dinky with anything over 3-4" lift. What gearing are you running? One of the main reasons I kept the lift and tires smaller is I didnt want to re-gear at least for now. I have factory 3.31 trac-lok rear and 3.31 open in the front with manual hubs, 229 case 727 trans and mild cammed 360 rebuilt at some point with mystery parts by the previous owner. She runs strong but I think larger tires would have made it a slug off the line.

One pic of just the tires no lift... the last few are with the 3" RC lift... (Rough .. is the accurate part of Rough Country) #$%^ rides a like a slammed mini truck from the 90's
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I hear you, the 31x10.50 would look a bit dinky with anything over 3-4" lift. What gearing are you running? One of the main reasons I kept the lift and tires smaller is I didnt want to re-gear at least for now. I have factory 3.31 trac-lok rear and 3.31 open in the front with manual hubs, 229 case 727 trans and mild cammed 360 rebuilt at some point with mystery parts by the previous owner. She runs strong but I think larger tires would have made it a slug off the line.

One pic of just the tires no lift... the last few are with the 3" RC lift... (Rough .. is the accurate part of Rough Country) #$%^ rides a like a slammed mini truck from the 90's
Im running the stock gearing right now, I'm gonna lock the front after I get some tires on it, and gonna wait to see if I do anything with the gears, my buddies uncle said he will do them for me if I want, but before I put the money into that I'm gonna see how it will wheel with the locker, I got set back because my transmission got burnt up bc I blew a line and lost my fluid, so the last weekend of the month im doing my lift and trans, so after that things will go much much smoother lol
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I hear you, the 31x10.50 would look a bit dinky with anything over 3-4" lift. What gearing are you running? One of the main reasons I kept the lift and tires smaller is I didnt want to re-gear at least for now. I have factory 3.31 trac-lok rear and 3.31 open in the front with manual hubs, 229 case 727 trans and mild cammed 360 rebuilt at some point with mystery parts by the previous owner. She runs strong but I think larger tires would have made it a slug off the line.

One pic of just the tires no lift... the last few are with the 3" RC lift... (Rough .. is the accurate part of Rough Country) #$%^ rides a like a slammed mini truck from the 90's


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This is a picture of what mine looks like now, I'll have more to post in a few weeks
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I'm putting a 6inch lift on it the end of the month, than later down the road I am replacing my rubber body mounts and doing another 2 inch body lift, so I don't wanna go that small of tire
If you are going to be running a total of 7-8" lift you should be fine.

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I hear you, the 31x10.50 would look a bit dinky with anything over 3-4" lift. What gearing are you running? One of the main reasons I kept the lift and tires smaller is I didnt want to re-gear at least for now. I have factory 3.31 trac-lok rear and 3.31 open in the front with manual hubs, 229 case 727 trans and mild cammed 360 rebuilt at some point with mystery parts by the previous owner. She runs strong but I think larger tires would have made it a slug off the line.

One pic of just the tires no lift... the last few are with the 3" RC lift... (Rough .. is the accurate part of Rough Country) #$%^ rides a like a slammed mini truck from the 90's
FWIW, I was suggesting 33x10.50's, not 31's.

And that being said, unless its a WT chero or a j truck, 4" is NOT enough lift to run 33's. You will, will, will, will will, rub.... on the street. Ask me how I know haha.

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Sucks about the trans. You should have tags on the axle covers that will have the gear ratios on them also the fluid type if it tells you. My 90 had the towing package and the lower 3.31 gears stock. (Blessing) I think the standard non tow gears were like 1:1 (rofl) seriously 2.74 or something more akin to running all out at Bonneville. With 35"s and 2.74 you would probably have to cruise the highway in 2nd gear.

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