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Unread 01-15-2014, 03:14 PM   #1
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stock or lifted?

ok guys..so flame away..i have googled and searched til my eyes bleed...i am no computer guy...so here goes...i have my '74 j10 i have been slowly building/cleaning up...here's my question...after washing the underside n preppin for undercoat...NOT fun job. anyways..under the filth i see my springs up front say "RANCHO" in white writing on top of leafs...i currently have 32x11.5-15 meats on it from when i got it..i can include sum pics soon...wondering if or how i can tell what kit or lift is on this thing?? ANY help and/or patience with this j10 newb is MUCH appreciated! I have ordered my new wheels from summit and tire size/brand search is next....so BEFORE i buy 32'' tires maybe i have room for 33'' already! i didnt think i had a lift! shows what i may or may not know..learnin EVRY day on this thing....thanks guys! measure spring length maybe? heights of front and rear..axle? bumper? etc...

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Unread 01-15-2014, 10:02 PM   #2
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Could be stock Ranchos, or lift springs. Is there a part number showing?

If it looks like this it's stock:



If it looks like this it has a lift (4 inch with 31s):
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Unread 01-16-2014, 07:34 AM   #3
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How does your tire clearance compare to 3" lift on 33x12.5x15?

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The latest lift kit from Rough Country? :D
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Your symptoms sounds just like what it does when it's not doing what it should because of how it is.
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Unread 01-16-2014, 12:36 PM   #4
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Rancho were not stock springs. they are an after market company for off road suspension products. my best guess is they are the ones Rancho used to sell that gave like a 2-2.5" lift on the old jeeps. probably why you can fit the 32" tires on it. as long as they aren't sagging or corroded beyond safety, i'd keep them on it.
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Unread 01-16-2014, 12:38 PM   #5
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WOW! now that is one sweet J10! Thanks guys for the responses and help! Looks like i have 7'' from the very top of my worn 32'' bfg tires to fender wells..front and rear...cant find any numbers on the springs..only lettering...number may be under the axle...i see no blocks in rear...but maybe an add a leaf been done..? how many springs should it have stock..? any ways to tell if PO did an add a leaf...(good thing i held off on ordering tires and shocks!) yikes...pics comin...(WORTHLESS without em

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Unread 01-16-2014, 12:50 PM   #6
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Measure from the bottom of the fender to the center of the wheel/hub. This takes out any discrepancies in tire size and wear.
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Unread 01-16-2014, 03:46 PM   #7
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ok..looks like about 21'' from center of hub to top center (meaning closest to tire on fender flare of course...thanks guys! hopin this may help!
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Unread 01-16-2014, 04:14 PM   #8
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I just ran out and measured mine. It was a little difficult as the tires stick out further than the fender but it appears to be 22.5" front and rear (with a 3" spring lift).
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Unread 01-16-2014, 05:19 PM   #9
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Thanks a million! That definitely helps me..i had same problem..tires stuck out..i eyeballed it best i could..i was around 21-21.5''..im starting to think PO did sum liftin not exact on how much..but SOME! thanks again guys for all ur help..any further info/input GREATLY appreciated..i will letya know once i get her "done"..tires and wheels n such..wont look NEAR your beauty..but these J10's ALL are gorgeous!!.. rusty or showroom clean... glad to be a part of this! thanks all!
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Unread 01-16-2014, 05:48 PM   #10
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oh and on a related note...u guys think since it seems i have maybe a rancho 2-2.5'' lift springs in good shape...think i would be ok to stuff some sweet 33x12.5-15 meats under there!? sure do LOVE how yours sits Chris! have a new set of 15x8 wagons starin at me waitin for some tires im droolin to pull trigger...thanks again guys!!
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Unread 01-16-2014, 06:24 PM   #11
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Yep, I would guess that the fronts are Rancho 44044 springs, which are a 2" lift spring. I can't remember the part number on the rears.

You can see here where the numbers would have been originally painted on the springs.
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Unread 01-16-2014, 06:50 PM   #12
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wow! yup thats the ones i have on mine!! (i cant see the numbers) BUT they sure look identical! thanks guys! Just made my week! now off i go to do the "fun stuff"...brakes/bearings and more rust scrapin....cant wait to get tires and then tackle the interior! pics comin soon...
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Unread 01-16-2014, 07:57 PM   #13
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Thanks for the compliments! I'd think if you have plenty of room with the 32's as it sits, 33's would probably be fine. I guess if you find they are a little snug, you could always throw on an inch body lift...
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Unread 01-16-2014, 09:32 PM   #14
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front tires will be the potential problem going to 33's. turn them lock to lock and check both sides for frame and fender clearance. if you have a couple of inches to spare, you should be good to go as long as you don't bottom it out too often. that could bend your fenders some.
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Unread 01-21-2014, 12:55 PM   #15
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ok..well..quick update as my learning process goes on and on....DEFINITELY the Rancho model listed above! (found the numbers on the driver side spring..ugh..sorry guys!) so i have a 2'' spring lift...wondering on the body lift kits..anyone have input on the 2''? I looked for a 1'' like Chris suggested, but no luck..? Performance Accessories #922 is a 2'' body lift (NO bumper brackets..?)...for around $100...is this the only option out there? Im asking because yup..i pulled trigger on some SWEET 33x12.5-15 Goodyear Duratracs..and man are they sweet! Huge! but sweet...(i did measure before i bought em, and had buncha room at full steer..BUT we shall see once i get em mounted! crossin fingers, and plannin ahead for a body lift if necessary!) Thanks guys! Pics comin soon as i get it all done!
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