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Unread 08-15-2011, 03:13 AM   #46
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Decided to swap my external lights to LEDs only to uncover some electrical gremlins. Now, I feel the need to clean all my connections and grounds...

Also formulating an idea in my head for a homemade grill, and LED lights, and such...

Also spent a few hours cleaning up the electrical schematic I found on oljeep to better represent the wiring of my Cherokee.

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Unread 08-16-2011, 05:50 PM   #47
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Since my Jeep has had a few owners, and no longer has AC/Heat or Quadratrac, I spent some time pulling a few remaining vacuum parts, wires, etc.
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Unread 08-19-2011, 11:36 PM   #48
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Pulled my instrument panel and headlight switch today as part of my on going electrical clean up.

What I initially though was an extra line wired into the headlight switch, turned out to be my headlight buzzer wire (my 79 schematic shows it wired differently, as does every thread I've read about the headlight switches pre and post 79)... Silly mid year changes...

Also, found a bad splice into my cigar lighter wire that goes back out the firewall into my engine bay harness. I'm gonna have to unwrap a few feet of harnesss from electric tape to find where it goes for certain. Right now, I'm afraid it may be wired into the electric choke on my carb.
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Unread 08-20-2011, 03:22 AM   #49
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After getting annoyed with the wiring, I said to Hell with it, and pull my entire in-cab harness. Right now, I've got it sitting on my coffee table.

Sure, I coulda just kept pecking away at it one circuit at a time, but I wanted to pull the whole thing and get a good look at everything.

Don't worry, I've done this before with motorcycles, and even once with my old Nova (which I ended up replacing with a Painless Wiring Harness).

While I have it out, I'm gone clean the harness, rewrap some wires, clean connectors, and LABEL EVERTHING with my buddy's fancy professional label maker.

After I tackle the cab harness, I'll pull the taillight harness, then rewrap (without pulling) the engine bay harness.
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Unread 08-20-2011, 03:49 AM   #50
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I'm also intrested in those leds, I need some rear cargo lights.
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Unread 08-26-2011, 11:12 AM   #51
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So, I finished with the interior harness a few days ago, but haven't put it back in yet. I figured while it was out, I should clean my fresh air vents. Wow! they were FULL!!! I got about 1 cubic foot of dirt and leaves out of EACH vent well. I also found my vent ducts to be rusted closed, and pretty much worthless. Check out the high water rust lines on the pic (it was about the same on both vents). Oh, and the passenger side vent well had the remains of two old antennas in it...

I also have some rust under the dash that needs cleaning, so I'm gonna take care of that before I put my harness back in.

Following pics are wiring harness during repairs, after repairs, removed wiring , rusted up vent door, and the leaves in the vent well.
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Unread 09-04-2011, 07:40 PM   #52
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Pulled the rear dif cover off to change the fluid today. Found a broken tooth on my ring gear. Awesome...
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Unread 09-06-2011, 04:56 PM   #53
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Wow, I'm jealous of your wiring harness. If I mail you mine, will you make it that pretty? haha
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Unread 09-06-2011, 08:46 PM   #54
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Wow, I'm jealous of your wiring harness. If I mail you mine, will you make it that pretty? haha
Sure. Just give me 2 or 3 days to do it.
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Since I don't have the money for a regear, I went ahead, and cleaned up the rear dif, and slapped the cover back on, and put fresh oil in it.

I then got around to changing the oil on the front dif... Not good... Not good at all...

First thing I noticed as the cover started to come loose was a clear fluid dripping out, and a orangish brownish fluid dripping out. So... Yeah, there was water in in the front dif.

Once I got it completely open, I was so shocked, I got up, wiped my hands off, walked to the bar (about a block and a half away), and had a drink or two...

The inside was thick gooey clumpy brownish orange goop that wouldn't even pour out of the dif housing. Not only that, but there was a lot of surface rust in there! I could see some on the bearings and the gear teeth, even!!!!

So, I've been crying on the inside for the last few days.

Looks like I'm looking at either regearing both axles, or watching craigslist to buy some used ones with the right gears, and hoping they're not jacked up, too.

Right now, I'm thinking about saving up the cash for gears, rebuild kits, and lockers for both axles, and breaking out my old drivetrain book, and doing it myself. I rebuilt a chevy rearend about 8 years ago, and didn't much care for the whole process, but the thought of sinking a few grand into this, plus labor to have a shop do it all, is just sickening.

I knew I shoulda bought that 77 on D60s I saw on CL last month! I coulda just swapped them, and parted out the rest of the Waggy.
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Since I don't have the money for a regear, I went ahead, and cleaned up the rear dif, and slapped the cover back on, and put fresh oil in it.

I then got around to changing the oil on the front dif... Not good... Not good at all...

First thing I noticed as the cover started to come loose was a clear fluid dripping out, and a orangish brownish fluid dripping out. So... Yeah, there was water in in the front dif.

Once I got it completely open, I was so shocked, I got up, wiped my hands off, walked to the bar (about a block and a half away), and had a drink or two...

The inside was thick gooey clumpy brownish orange goop that wouldn't even pour out of the dif housing. Not only that, but there was a lot of surface rust in there! I could see some on the bearings and the gear teeth, even!!!!

So, I've been crying on the inside for the last few days.

Looks like I'm looking at either regearing both axles, or watching craigslist to buy some used ones with the right gears, and hoping they're not jacked up, too.

Right now, I'm thinking about saving up the cash for gears, rebuild kits, and lockers for both axles, and breaking out my old drivetrain book, and doing it myself. I rebuilt a chevy rearend about 8 years ago, and didn't much care for the whole process, but the thought of sinking a few grand into this, plus labor to have a shop do it all, is just sickening.

I knew I shoulda bought that 77 on D60s I saw on CL last month! I coulda just swapped them, and parted out the rest of the Waggy.
Crappy! theres no way to clean it up? Had you not used 4wd at all since buying it?

I've always been told that on these older rigs with manual locking hubs, it's necessary to throw them in 4wd every so often just to make sure everything sloshes around in there. Maybe it got water in it and sat for a long time without being put in 4wd?
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Unread 09-08-2011, 02:42 PM   #57
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I lock the hubs about once a month, and drive it for a day like that. I put it in 4wd sporadically, and drive a bit with the hubs unlocked (I don't have a convenient field or such nearby to drive around in). I cleaned everything out, and hit the rust spots with a wire wheel. Took almost half a roll of shop towels and two cans of brake cleaner to get all the sludge out. I was having to dig it out of the housing with a screwdriver.

I'm just gonna run it like this till it explodes, or I have the cash to fix it.

Right now, the big debate in my mind is, upgrade the axles, or rebuild the D44s? With 35" tires, I feel I may be close to pushing the limits of the D44s, but I don't intend to ever go bigger on this rig.

Since so many people talk about how awesome D60FF and 14bolt FF are, I'm seriously tempted to just look for a set of those, and spend less money modifying them to fit than rebuilding my stock axles... Heck, I might could even get lucky, and pull some D60s with factory disc brakes.

If I redbuild the stock axles, I'll save up for an OX locker (and maybe a detroit), and just do it all at once. If I swap axles, I'll probably just drop in a lunchbox.
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Unread 09-08-2011, 03:03 PM   #58
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with the ground clearence losses of the 60 and expecially the 14 bolt, you'd want to look into atl minimum 37s
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Unread 09-08-2011, 05:55 PM   #59
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with the ground clearence losses of the 60 and expecially the 14 bolt, you'd want to look into atl minimum 37s
Well, if I did the 14 bolt, I'd shave it, and if I went for the D60, I'd try to find one of those smooth bottom ones.
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I feel your pain......my vent hose got ripped off at some point....

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