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Unread 04-28-2013, 10:05 AM   #1
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Rim help!

So there I was driving home, when I heard this clunking noise on my drivers front side. I get to my driveway and can't seem to pull into my garage with my Wagoneer. All of a sudden the front drops...and my buddy hops out to see if the suspension went out. Turns out my lug nuts had unthreaded and the rim had partially sheared off in the back. I don't think they were the right size for this beast. Right now I am looking at getting some new rims and tires but not sure off center, offset, backspacing, etc. I do know that my lugs are 6x5.5. Here is all the info of what I want to get, will they work? Pro Comp 1069 Polished, 15x8, 6x5.5, center 108, offset -19mm, backspace 3.75". Thanks!

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Unread 04-28-2013, 01:57 PM   #2
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The bolt circle is 6 on a 5.5" circle. The factory backspacing is 3.5". The steel factory wheels are 6" wide, and the factory aluminum wheels are 7" (?) wide.

Backspace 3.75" will work. Measure the diameter of the factory center hole - I don't recall what that is. Offset and backspacing are redundant, so you only need to worry about one or the other.
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Unread 04-28-2013, 05:05 PM   #3
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I measured my center caps to be right about 90mm. Does it matter how big the center of the rim is as long as it is big enough to fit around the center?
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Unread 04-29-2013, 05:16 AM   #4
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I think you'll find that the available wheels with a center hole that's big enough will fit tightly around your hubs. I know that the ProComp wheels that I bought for my CJ do not have any extra material to make a larger hole from - they fit closely to the hub in the front, and the raised center of the axle flange in the rear.

That said, it's the wheel studs and lug nuts that center the wheel with the axle. But the center hole will only have enough clearance with the hub to remove/replace the wheel.

If I had a choice, I'd pick the wheel that has the same center hole size as my factory steel wheels.
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Unread 04-29-2013, 06:27 PM   #5
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Sphere lies the other issue, my front hub I measured to be 3.6 inches, which doesn't fall to any rim center size. I looked up finding hubcentric rings to fill the gap, since most rims have an ID of 108mm and my hubs are just shy of 93mm. Does anyone else on here know of, or had the same issue?
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Unread 04-29-2013, 06:35 PM   #6
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What is the stock wheels hub clearance. These are not hub-centric wheels.
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Unread 04-29-2013, 07:44 PM   #7
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The PO upgraded the wheels to the ones that are on now, they are 108mm. However I think they weren't balanced properly and the unbalanced wheel plus the fact that they were mounted lug centric, caused the lugs to eventually work loose. So what are my options? Should I try to make them hub centric or keep them lug centric and use a locking lug? I can't seem to find any rims out there that are perfectly spaced centers for my front hubs.
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Unread 04-29-2013, 07:44 PM   #8
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The PO upgraded the wheels to the ones that are on now, they are 108mm. However I think they weren't balanced properly and the unbalanced wheel plus the fact that they were mounted lug centric, caused the lugs to eventually work loose. So what are my options? Should I try to make them hub centric or keep them lug centric and use a locking lug? I can't seem to find any rims out there that are perfectly spaced centers for my front hubs.
Also there is about a half inch clearance between the hub and current wheel center.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 02:49 AM   #9
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Lets try this again.
The FSJ does NOT require a hub-centric wheel. The Dana44 is a very common axle from the big three as well as, IH, Jeep. None of to my knowledge use hub-centric.
Find wheels that will clear the hub (1/2" sounds like a lot, too much), replace the studs and nuts with the correct nuts for the wheel (bulge, 60štaper) and roll on man
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Unread 04-30-2013, 06:28 AM   #10
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Like Rock-Rollin said, you don't need hub-centric. It sounds like they weren't tightened properly to begin with.

Any wheel we have listed on our wheel and tire section: http://www.bjsoffroad.com/subcategory.asp?category=29 -- will fit. We only sell parts for FSJ's so every wheel we listed will fit and work on an FSJ.
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