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Unread 04-14-2013, 10:25 PM   #1
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Lift questions for my 90 Grand Wagoneer

I have a 1990 Grand Wagoneer and am looking at putting a 3 to 4 inch lift on it.
My question is when you put a body lift on it do you have to do anything to the traction bars, steering, etc.
Thanks for helping.

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Unread 04-15-2013, 04:42 AM   #2
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Trac bar/panhard bar. Traction bars are for chevys
Trac bars are not absolutely necessary on a full leaf spring vehicle. They do help with lateral play. I do run them front/rear, but I do a lot of curvey country road driving. You can also run the front and none in the rear.
Onward to the lift. 4" Body lift? Why? Not common. Suspention yes.
Once you get to 4" you are looking at extended brake lines, drop pitman arm. Plus the 3" list. If you stay at 3" or below, its only springs, shocks, trac bar relocation bracket (optional)
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Unread 04-15-2013, 07:11 AM   #3
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We use the Jeep mainly for in the hills, hunting, etc. Where we go there are some pretty good size boulders which we can navigate over and around but sometimes I would like a little more clearance. Definitely am not going more than 4 inches and may just go 3. Thanks for the info, appreciate it!
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Unread 04-16-2013, 08:54 AM   #4
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I installed the Rusty's Offroad 3.5"-4" lift kit on a jeep I had. Comes with leaf packs in the front, and an add a leaf and block in the back. Only $350.
Here's a link: http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...-lift-kit.html
Real easy install and I run 32" BFG AT's that fit perfect.
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For the front: Leaf packs, u-bolts, shocks.
Rear: Add a leaf kit, u-bolts, lift blocks, shocks.
Highly recommend this kit. I love it.
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Unread 04-16-2013, 08:53 PM   #5
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mike2905, thanks for the picture and information, just what I was looking for!
Couple of questions... Did you have to do anything with the traction bars?
When I called and tried to talk to someone they wanted to know what size axles I had,
been trying to find out and read about how to look for them..what do you have?
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Unread 04-17-2013, 02:04 PM   #6
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I'm not running any track bars, I took them right off, I think that's even what the instructions on the lift kit. BJs offroad kits come with track bar drop brackets but there's not alot to them. The jeep handles fine with no track bars.
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Unread 04-17-2013, 06:00 PM   #7
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Running a rough country 3" kidney removal special on my 90 Wagoneer. Springs are bouncy as $$$T. Had to do over I would go with skyjacker soft ride springs all the way around. Even with my 3" i had to "persuade" the track bars back into place but it does handle decent for a 2ton toaster on wheels. :-) With the 31"'s its got decent power and good cruise RPM with the stock 3.31 gearing. Since the driveline is tucked up into the frame so well on this truck it has more clearance than my built WJ with a 4" lift and 33's.
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Unread 04-17-2013, 06:07 PM   #8
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I have a 4" BJ's and it makes my Jeep look like it should have been made from the factory. The 31"s are nice. And the drive line and exhaust are all tucked up safely. I removed all of my traction control stuff and it was fine until I drove back from Colorado under load at highway speed. It was SCARY. The puckered up to relaxed ratio was much higher than usual. I found my front sway bar and will be cutting the rods and slipping them into 6" of pipe that they can slide into. I'll measure and drill for a removable pins or grade 8 bolts and wing nuts on both ends so they can be removed for full flexing and easy re-attachment for street driving.

EDIT I meant Rustys... I was day dreaming about a BJ's 6" lift.
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Unread 04-17-2013, 06:49 PM   #9
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Kidney removal special. X2
Super are you running the RC shocks? been thinking about the Bilstiens.
I also have been surprised by how well my Wagon handles, but yea if I had it to do over, I would have gone with better springs. If the shipping didn't suck I might do it anyway.
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Unread 04-17-2013, 08:37 PM   #10
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I just did a 4in lift from BDS full spring lift and highly recommend it. My wagon was sagging badly and steering was a bit loose. After new springs and shocks its great handling. I did remove the traction bars off as well. I won't be towing anything for much of a distance and live in the flatlands of Nebraska so not too many windy roads.

Install was pretty straight forward. Soak every bolt for a few days before the project and hope for warmer weather than I did mine in.
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Unread 04-17-2013, 08:57 PM   #11
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I think I might try a front shock swap, its been on my mind yah all rc shocks. They use the same part # for front and rear, how can the valving possibly be matched to the.front spring rates if the weight of the engine is on the nose, the springs are completely different etc. my thoughts are something with way less compression damping and a lot more rebound control. That should reduce the bouncy feel. its as stiff as my Corvette in turns.... :-(
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