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Unread 02-08-2011, 06:41 PM   #1
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Humvee/Hummer an FSJ ? decendant ? ?

The Humvee is proto typed 79'-81' and was sent to uncle sam for testing in 83' 50K units got order and started production in 85' - present.

Now giving AM-General was the Commercial/Military division of jeep, AM-General was sold off slightly after/before the Contract for production.

So the Humvee and AM-General were under ownership of AMC/Jeep during that time so by technicality wouldn't this make the Mil-spec Humvee and Civilian Hummer an FSJ ? As AM-G produced the 97'/99'+ H1 n 2 for GM sure, but AM-G owned "HUMMER" product line from 92'-97'/99'

So why couldn't Chrysler/Jeep of picked up the Hummer line reuniting Jeep & hummer Just a thought ? ? ?
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Unread 02-08-2011, 07:17 PM   #2
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Another thought here:
The M715 n variants are considered FSJs . . .

Kaiser jeeps General products division is AMC jeeps AM General division, same people same plant same company different name !

Also the M998 Humvee and variants have AMC-20 Center sections casted out of aluminum
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Unread 02-09-2011, 09:23 AM   #3
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AM-General Humvee 79'-Present:
Mechanically evolved;
AMC-401/AM-TH400/IS AMC-20 (Prototype only) to GM 6.2-NA/TH400/IS AMC-20 to GM6.5-NA/3L80/IS AMC-20 to GM 6.5-T/4L80E/IS AMC-20 to AM-G 6500/AM-G 4L80E/IS AMG-20 to AM-G 6500/AM-G 1200/AMG-20.
Structurally evolved:
expanded payload/towed loaded Capacities to minor n major body restyling.
Technology advances:
GPS/Radar/Armor/ect . . .

The civilian AM-G Hummer 92'-99'/GM-Hummer 99'-10':
Mechanical updates:
6.5-NA/3L80/AM-20 to 6.5-T/4L80E/AM-20 to D-Max/4L85E-Alison/AM-20.
Technology/Structural Advances:
GM-H2/H3 series added 02'-10'.
Sharing common chassie/power train/axles plate forms of product vehicles.

What did the FSJ get for updates ? 63'-91':
Structurally:
Grills n headlights.
Roof line alteration: brows n brow less.
Mechanically:
TH400 to TF727.
Kaiser/GM/AMC engines to AM-power.
Dana/AMC to Dana/Dana

Parts availability and service ability would have to awarded:
#1 Humvee.
#2 Hummer.
#3 FSJ.

I guess when broken down, All 3 Rigs differed greatly . . . So not an FSJ ! ? ! ? !
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Still no...saw this on the other site
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Unread 02-10-2011, 12:00 PM   #5
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Yup note the last line ? "So not an FSJ" I seem to have figured that out thanks

Moving on
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