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post #31 of 58 Old 09-12-2011, 09:11 AM Thread Starter
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I just bought waggy 44's front and rear for 350. the person i got them off of doesnt know the year of the truck and before i start buying for the rebuild would the BOM number help identify the year? Its 610283-1. thanks for the help
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I just bought waggy 44's front and rear for 350. the person i got them off of doesnt know the year of the truck and before i start buying for the rebuild would the BOM number help identify the year? Its 610283-1. thanks for the help
You can do it yourself right here:

http://www2.dana.com/expertforms/demenu.aspx

Click on "Light Axle" and then "Axle Bill of Material".

They appear to be from an 87-88 Grand Wagoneer. If you wanted FSJ NT's with a driver's side drop, you made a good score for that price if they are complete and functional.

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old thread, i know! i just picked up a 77 cherokee- 360 V8, t-18 trans, and the D20 t-case. im trying to figure out my axle situation. my front axle has a vacuum disconnect hose that is DISCONNECTED, i cant figure out where it goes. it also has warn locking hubs from the factory... is it a D20 or D44?

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old thread, i know! i just picked up a 77 cherokee- 360 V8, t-18 trans, and the D20 t-case. im trying to figure out my axle situation. my front axle has a vacuum disconnect hose that is DISCONNECTED, i cant figure out where it goes. it also has warn locking hubs from the factory... is it a D20 or D44?
Dana 20 is a transfer case, as you already stated. AMC 20s were never made in front axle configurations.

Are you sure you're not just looking at the vent hose coming off the diff?

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sorry, meant AMC 20... yeah i think its just a breather hose. im dumb and very unfamiliar with older vehicles... but im learning! thanks you for your help!

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So the link posted earlier didn't work. I have a 66 wagoneer and trying to figure out what drivetrain is in it.
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So the link posted earlier didn't work. I have a 66 wagoneer and trying to figure out what drivetrain is in it.
What link are you referring to? Checked all mine and they work. I believe the one you want is in post #21.

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What link are you referring to? Checked all mine and they work. I believe the one you want is in post #21.
Thanks. For some reason it wouldn't come up on my computer but would on my phone.
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I have been looking for a front end swap for my yj. I finally found one sort of local. It's a 1991 grand wagoneer. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. I have talked with the owner of the yard where it is located. He said it was a d44 3.13 gear with auto locking hubs. I asked if it had the vacuum disconnect. He said he wasn't for sure. Question is, is there any chance it might have the disconnect. I have done some research on the axles and I can't find anything on the auto hubs. Whatever they are can the be replaced out for manual aftermarket hubs? I have a friend that got one from a 1987 gw and it already had manual locking hubs. So anymore information someone can give me work be helpful.
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I have been looking for a front end swap for my yj. I finally found one sort of local. It's a 1991 grand wagoneer. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. I have talked with the owner of the yard where it is located. He said it was a d44 3.13 gear with auto locking hubs. I asked if it had the vacuum disconnect. He said he wasn't for sure. Question is, is there any chance it might have the disconnect. I have done some research on the axles and I can't find anything on the auto hubs. Whatever they are can the be replaced out for manual aftermarket hubs? I have a friend that got one from a 1987 gw and it already had manual locking hubs. So anymore information someone can give me work be helpful.
That will be a non-disco. If you don't already have a rear axle, that vehicle would be a great candidate for a matching set of D44s - especially if you are going to try and adapt an 8.8. If he still has the rear, you can completely avoid bolt pattern issues.

As for the hubs, I think it is more likely that it has drive flanges that the guy was calling "auto locking" hubs - meaning you don't have to lock them. No matter what it does have, flanges and auto lockiuts are both easily removed for the installation of manual lockouts.

The gearing is most likely 3.31.

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Thanks for the fast response. Yeah I just seen I put 3.13 as the gear ratio, but your right it's a 3.31. That doesn't bother me. I'm running 4.56 right now. So will have to regear anyways. I done have a locked 8.8 in the rear. So if I do swap I'm going to just put adapters on the rear to match I guess. Maybe some spacing on front. I think it's just slightly wider than the 8.8 if I'm right the 8.8 is like 59 & 1/4 from mount to mount. So all I would really need to do is bolt it up and change the hubs to Manuel lockouts right? Thanks again information is priceless sometimes.
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Can standard dana 44 lockouts be put on a a 8 lug j20 dana 44?

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Been building a 5.9 for a bit. 8.8 rear and will move to 5 5.5 super 8.8 shafts (or similar). Front D30 is bent from the dunes and smiling. About to get analysis paralysis but I THINK I need a non vac 85 -90(91) Grand waggy D44 as a start to grind on and put new mounts... Correct?

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looked through here but didn't see an answer, so here goes,
what is the distance between the spring perches on the chief axle?

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looked through here but didn't see an answer, so here goes,
what is the distance between the spring perches on the chief axle?
Same as the rest of the late FSJs. The frame width didn't change.

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