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post #1 of 10 Old 06-27-2013, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
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87 grand wagoneer new fluids

Hey, I just bought an 87 grand wagoneer this week, and one of the first things I want to do is change the fluids. I've read good things about using Shell Rotella 15W-40 with a Wix filter for the engine. I'm looking to also change the transmission fluid (and filter), transfer case and differentials and was wondering what to use.. It has a 360 with the 727 tranny, I'm not sure about the transfer case and I'm pretty sure it's Dana 44's front an rear. Thanks for any help.

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post #2 of 10 Old 06-27-2013, 05:32 PM
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Congradulations on the purchase!
It is a dana 44 front and rear. There is a 'slim' chance you have a traction loc rear end. It will want special fluid (although the clutches are probably warn out either way). You can check the tag and/or often times there was a warning sticker in the glove box.

Do you have full time or part time 4wd? I think what you use for it will matter (you either have an np208 or np229)

I don't have an opinion on transmission fluid. I always get confused because the original stuff isn't available. I have a note written down in my booklet, I will take a look when I get home.

I run valvoline vr racing oil only because it has a higher zddp content which is good for the flat tappet cams we run.

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post #3 of 10 Old 06-28-2013, 12:44 PM
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x2... also the rear diff should have the axle ratio tag and another tag with the fluid spec for the traction-loc if equipped. My 90 w HD Tow package has the 3:31 trac-loc. I ran Royal Purple Synthetic in it.

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It has part time 4WD, with the selector for 2WD or 4WD and the hi an low lever on the drivers floorboard, which I thinks cool lol. Thanks for the help, I can't wait to start tinkering on it.
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post #5 of 10 Old 07-03-2013, 06:00 AM
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Any other Grand Waggy owner been using Shell Rotella in their 360? Curious if the heavier viscosity has made a noticeable difference.
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post #6 of 10 Old 07-03-2013, 09:17 PM
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Valvoline racing, only parts store oil with enough zinc the deisel oils do not have enough in them any more. Brad Penn racing, or Joe Gibbs oils.are the other two I use in my flat tappet engines.

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01 WJ 4x2 4.7v8 Limited (needs valve job)
90 Grand Wagoneer 401 Edelbrock Heads, Lunati .510/.527 FT Cam, Edelbrock RPM Air Gap, Holley HP 750, Thorley Headers, HEI, Electric Fan w Digital controller,4" lift 31x10.50 Goodyear Duratrac's on Pro-Comp Wheels,new interior, seats,seals,Alpine and JL full system, Remote HEI, Clifford 2 way with remote start,windows,tailgate.
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Valvoline racing, only parts store oil with enough zinc the deisel oils do not have enough in them any more. Brad Penn racing, or Joe Gibbs oils.are the other two I use in my flat tappet engines.
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post #8 of 10 Old 07-09-2013, 10:00 AM Thread Starter
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I don't want to open a can of worms saying this but from what I've researched most people say to use Shell Rotella 15W-40, but there's also people that say to use Valvoline racing (no specific weight) because of the higher zinc content. I bought 5 quarts of the shell and my buddy who has a diesel got pretty concerned when I showed him. I'mwondering which one to use before I give my jeep a drink.
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post #9 of 10 Old 07-10-2013, 08:32 AM
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Don't run the diesel stuff it does not have enough zinc. Any cam manufacturer or builder will vouch for me on this one. I use the Valvoline and spike it with additive.

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01 WJ 4x2 4.7v8 Limited (needs valve job)
90 Grand Wagoneer 401 Edelbrock Heads, Lunati .510/.527 FT Cam, Edelbrock RPM Air Gap, Holley HP 750, Thorley Headers, HEI, Electric Fan w Digital controller,4" lift 31x10.50 Goodyear Duratrac's on Pro-Comp Wheels,new interior, seats,seals,Alpine and JL full system, Remote HEI, Clifford 2 way with remote start,windows,tailgate.
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post #10 of 10 Old 07-10-2013, 06:09 PM
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After reading more into this ZDDP issue, it looks like there are a handful of motor oil manufactures that make oil specifically for flat tappet cams, as Super98 stated above. And there are a ton of threads all over the Internet in various automotive forums discussing this issue. There's a really great thread on a Corvette forum that's worth searching out. I'm too lazy to attach the link.

I just filled my 360 with Valvoline VR1 10W-30 this past weekend. Thanks for the recommendation Super98.
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