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post #1 of 13 Old 03-25-2013, 07:40 AM Thread Starter
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87 grand wagoneer battery issues

I have an 87 wagoneer, the vehicle has been sitting for a few weeks bc my transmission is bad, well every so often I would start it, than last week the battery was completely dead like wouldn't charge anymore so I bought a new one, well it's been sitting a week and my battery has mysteriously died, there are no lights or anything on in it so i dont know what it could possibly be.

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post #2 of 13 Old 03-25-2013, 07:55 AM Thread Starter
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Also, how do I find out what type of transmission I hav, I need new seals need new seals and gaskets
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post #3 of 13 Old 03-25-2013, 09:24 AM
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It's a Chrysler transmission, the 727. But you should be able to get the right parts by asking for parts for the right year and model of Jeep.

Do you know how to use a multimeter? Measure the current between the battery and one of the disconnected cables. Then start pulling fuses one by one until the current drain stops. This broadly isolates the problem to a few circuits. The wiring diagram can be found at www.oljeep.com or in your TSM.

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I have an 87 wagoneer, the vehicle has been sitting for a few weeks bc my transmission is bad, well every so often I would start it, than last week the battery was completely dead like wouldn't charge anymore so I bought a new one, well it's been sitting a week and my battery has mysteriously died, there are no lights or anything on in it so i dont know what it could possibly be.
To identify it look online. You'll be able to tell by the pan and some other tell tale signs.

It's possible you got a defective brand new battery. I've had that happen before.

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It's a Chrysler transmission, the 727. But you should be able to get the right parts by asking for parts for the right year and model of Jeep.

Do you know how to use a multimeter? Measure the current between the battery and one of the disconnected cables. Then start pulling fuses one by one until the current drain stops. This broadly isolates the problem to a few circuits. The wiring diagram can be found at www.oljeep.com or in your TSM.
X1000000 this is what to do!!!

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I took my battery out and put it on a charger, when i hooked it back up to my car as soon as my negative touched the spoke my car started itself without my keys even in it. Than after about 30 seconds it shut itself off. I than put My key in it and it started fine but my starter makes a weird noise now when it starts.
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I took my battery out and put it on a charger, when i hooked it back up to my car as soon as my negative touched the spoke my car started itself without my keys even in it. Than after about 30 seconds it shut itself off. I than put My key in it and it started fine but my starter makes a weird noise now when it starts.
Your ignition solenoid might be sticking.

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Lots of sparks when you hooked up the battery? My Cherokee chief with a i6 did that to the PO, turned out being the starter solenoid!!

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Lots of sparks when you hooked up the battery? My Cherokee chief with a i6 did that to the PO, turned out being the starter solenoid!!

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Wouldn't it need to be the ignition solenoid? He said it ran so it need power to the coil.

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Wouldn't it need to be the ignition solenoid? He said it ran so it need power to the coil.
That's what I was thinking lol! He said mine just stuck on crank and he had to in hook the battery, this sounds like old electronics

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post #11 of 13 Old 03-25-2013, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
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There wasn't a lot of sparks. But it did spark and like pop than it cranked itself over and turned on, hasn't done anything sketchy since charging my battery but its only been an hour or so.
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One more really stupid question, how much trans fluid do these hold?
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post #13 of 13 Old 03-25-2013, 12:57 PM
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One more really stupid question, how much trans fluid do these hold?
Google fluid capacity TF727

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