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Unread 03-30-2013, 02:53 AM   #1
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86' GW will not start.

Hi everyone, Im new here and as it seems with all new people on this site, I have a dilemma. My 86' GW (360 5.9L) wont start. I get power to the instrument panel and lights but it wont turn over. Initially, I thought it was the solenoid, so I replaced it. Still nothing. My starter is new but I pulled it out anyway and took it to the shop and had it checked. Still good. I thought it had to be the ignition switch so i replaced that also. Still didn't work. Bad connection , I thought to myself, so I replaced the positive cables from the battery to the solenoid and solenoid to the starter. I also replaced the ground cable. Still no luck. I don't know where to go from here.

A couple weeks back my starter went on the fritz and was turning over without the key in the ignition. It eventually stopped but my battery cables would get hot if i hooked them up. I replaced the starter and solenoid with that and it was fine. Now Im thinking something else got cooked from the excessive amperage in the system.

Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? I already thought about increasing my insurance and driving it off a cliff but, Im saving it till everything else fails.

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Unread 03-30-2013, 06:50 AM   #2
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Fusable links from the solenoid. I had one burn as I was under the hood, irrc it was the throttle solenoid, and it had power to the dash lights but that was it.
Neutral safety switch could be the culprit.
Did you replace the ignition switch, or the tumbler assembly.
Have you tried to jump the starter?
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Unread 03-30-2013, 01:16 PM   #3
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Jumped across the solenoid and starter rotates. Tried to jump through solenoid and nothing.
I replaced the ignition switch, I haven't touched the tumbler assembly.
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Unread 04-13-2013, 12:26 AM   #4
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I'm having the same problem I have replaced my solenoid the starter and the ignition switch and ignition module. At first it had a draw found the solenoid was bad changed it started not to shut off again pulled coil wire off to kill it to never restart. pulled starter found nose bushing bad and bearing no good on bench test. replaced ignition switch because it wouldn't shut off. The battery is new and cables as well grounds looks to be in place. I check the fusible links all have power the coil gets hot and dist. rattles. Acts like a bad battery but everything else works. Any help would be great thanks in advance.
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Unread 04-13-2013, 07:06 AM   #5
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I'm having the same problem I have replaced my solenoid the starter and the ignition switch and ignition module. At first it had a draw found the solenoid was bad changed it started not to shut off again pulled coil wire off to kill it to never restart. pulled starter found nose bushing bad and bearing no good on bench test. replaced ignition switch because it wouldn't shut off. The battery is new and cables as well grounds looks to be in place. I check the fusible links all have power the coil gets hot and dist. rattles. Acts like a bad battery but everything else works. Any help would be great thanks in advance.
Did the run-on start after the ignition module change? Are you drawing power with everything off? The visible links should be physically firm and stiff all the way to the common wire connection.
Coil gets hot, and dizzy rattles? More detail please.
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No it did not start or even turn over I have power out all fusible links and everything else seems to working. The dist. rattle started after I pulled the coil wire out of the coil to kill the jeep. I notice coil being hot when I tested for power it has 12v if I pull the wires off the coil the rattle in the dist. stops. I don't understand it not cranking over at all act as if the battery is dead. The ground cable goes to the front of the a/c bracket that bolts right in the head and ties off to the fender and the block ground goes the frame at the motor mount. the positive goes from the battery to the solenoid where the fusible links hook up and you got two green wires that hook up on the threaded studs and one that hooks on the back that slips on. I will have to check the firmness of the links like you said. thank you hope this was the info you needed.
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No it did not start or even turn over I have power out all fusible links and everything else seems to working. The dist. rattle started after I pulled the coil wire out of the coil to kill the jeep. I notice coil being hot when I tested for power it has 12v if I pull the wires off the coil the rattle in the dist. stops. I don't understand it not cranking over at all act as if the battery is dead. The ground cable goes to the front of the a/c bracket that bolts right in the head and ties off to the fender and the block ground goes the frame at the motor mount. the positive goes from the battery to the solenoid where the fusible links hook up and you got two green wires that hook up on the threaded studs and one that hooks on the back that slips on. I will have to check the firmness of the links like you said. thank you hope this was the info you needed.
Neutral Safety switch? Still not sure about the rattle, everything visually correct in the dizzy? Also what year and engine?
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Unread 04-14-2013, 08:20 PM   #8
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the rattle in the dist. I think is the magnetic pick up. It is a 1986 grand wagoner with 5.9l. I didn't see a neutral safety switch on the trans is on the column?
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Unread 04-14-2013, 09:31 PM   #9
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Should be a four wire harness coming off the trans
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Unread 04-16-2013, 04:26 PM   #10
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found it and it tested good so starting over the new starter turned out to be bad out of the box will put in tonight stay tuned lol
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Unread 08-22-2013, 08:00 PM   #11
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Can anybody give me detail instructions on how to find the neutral safety switch? New to engines. Thanks.
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