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post #1 of 9 Old 04-22-2013, 06:22 PM Thread Starter
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727 Stall Converter Options

1990 Wagon 727
I am rebuild the top end and who knows might freshen the bottom up depending on how it looks once the heads are off.

I went with a more radical cam grind than a typical wagon would want and I like loose converters so had planned on a 2200-2400 stall speed. Nothing crazy but enough to snap it up to a 2600 flash off the line if I want to reduce my tire diameter unnecessarily :-). Guess I had assumed that the 727 being a common trans would just use a 727 converter of my liking. Is the bolt pattern on the 360 flex-plate for the converter the same as any other Chrysler? I know the flex to crank pattern and the starter ring will be AMC specific.

Thanks guys.. oh and I wore out Google and found nothing but more people asking the same question without any definitive answers.

I did find that they exist up to 1981 for the J and Wagon/CJ/Cherokee evidently something changed after 81?

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post #2 of 9 Old 04-22-2013, 07:34 PM
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Never bought an off the shelf torque converter. Try JPT (Jims performance transmission) in Diamondale, Mi. The last one I got from him was $460 for a custom made tq for a 904 behind a 425hp 340. The cross section compared to a TCI looked like a battle ship compared to a Jon boat, fully welded instead of tip welded, heavier fins, and he can adjust the stall if you bump the hp later. Not sure how many custon tq builders there are out there, may be one near you.

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post #3 of 9 Old 04-22-2013, 08:09 PM
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Summit has several options. TCI, something HOG?, and a few other companies from 2,000 to way up there.

Wag Rebuilt 360, 260H, 727, Locked 44, AMC 20, 208, 31" M/T's, 4" Rustys, 2.5" Duals. SOON:SOA SF, 496, T400, Doubler, D60's, 37" M/T's <-TOY
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revelc i couldnt find squat for a 360 AMC / 727 just for Chryslers are they the same?

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A 727 is a 727 internally. The difference is the shape of the case for the bellhousing/block pattern and the tailhousing/output for the tcase. Yes the pattern for the torque convertor to the flexplate is standard Torqueflite.
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A 727 is a 727 internally. The difference is the shape of the case for the bellhousing/block pattern and the tailhousing/output for the tcase. Yes the pattern for the torque convertor to the flexplate is standard Torqueflite.
I'm not 100%^^ but I think he is right. Although they have specific Stall converters for AMC 727's. So I am still unsure about it being a match up on the flex plate pattern.

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Sweet its worth trying ill ask around too. Rock thanks for a custom info, I have run a Hughes in the olds for two plus years now not certain how well built they are but was.<300 bucks. Customs way better for certain so maybe ill wait.

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So I am still unsure about it being a match up on the flex plate pattern.
I am 100% sure that it's a match, otherwise I wouldn't have made that statement.
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I am 100% sure that it's a match, otherwise I wouldn't have made that statement.
Didn't mean to offend. Free advice is free advice either way.

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