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Unread 11-02-2013, 11:09 AM   #1
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1977 Cherokee Chief

Thought I would start a thread on my '77 Cherokee Chief.

It came down to selling my '77 Cherokee Chief or my 1994 Grand Cherokee. Being that the Grand had nearly 200,000 miles as well as other pro's and con's of keeping and selling one or the other it came down to keeping the '77 and selling the '94.

Looking forward to maintaining a diary, of sorts, and sharing to the FSJ community.

My history with Jeeps began in 1994 when I purchased a 1972 Jeep Wagoneer for $300.00 so my new larger family and I could enjoy getting outdoors. It was destroyed when we were hit by a semi. I was able to drive it home, but every panel was tweeked from the impact, which saved the family inside it from far more damage than most vehicles. The family has since owned 1984 Cherokee, 1992 Cherokee, 1984 Grand Wagoneer, and a 1994 Grand Cherokee.

I purchased the '77 in '98 and drove it till I purchased the '94 Grand Cherokee in 2004. It has since been sitting in the yard. I always have meant to sell it, but something always came up. Maybe that was a good thing......

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Unread 11-02-2013, 11:19 AM   #2
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So the above photo's where taken earlier this year when I had put it up for sale. Every time someone would call on it I would I realized how hard it was going to be to get rid of it. I had already sold my '60 Studebaker Hawk and was left with no pure American old iron. I decided to go ahead and sell my 1994 Grand Cherokee instead.

Shortly after taking it of the market I started to repaint the roof because the paint over the years has faded and washed away. I decided to try the $50.00 roll on paint method. Works pretty good I must say. I only have 3 coats on and it looks like time has run out to finish this year. It still looks a lot better than it did though.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 03:14 PM   #3
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Today I went out and did some work on the interior roof. I had taken out the headliner earlier already. At one time there was a foam liner glued to the roof. With time the foam deteriorated and the glue must have retained moisture, this caused a mess. I removed the foam a long time ago, but now it was time to tackle the rust. I removed the cross members and took a wire brush to the flaky rust. Once I got all the flaky rust off I applied POR-15. This stuff works great on rust.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:52 PM   #4
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looks great, keep it up!
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Unread 11-04-2013, 04:26 PM   #5
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nice work. like you, more work on my '66 will have to wait till next years warmer weather.
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Unread 11-04-2013, 04:40 PM   #6
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Funny you should say that. It was 45 degrees out and it snowed on me while I was scraping and painting. First snow fall of the year for us.
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Unread 11-08-2013, 07:40 PM   #10
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I ordered up tires and wheels yesterday. The wheels will be the same as what is on it now, except with less rust. I am going to try the GT Radial Adventuro AT II in a 31X10.5-15. Did some research and it looks like the Australians like this tire, as will as the MT's for the back country. I like the MT's but, this rig will be used on road as much as off so I figured I had better go with a little friendlier tire for on road use. Still has a nice aggressive look and looks close to period correct. Got tires, wheels, center caps, valve stems mounted and balance for $1123.49 for 5 units. Now I have to wait for them to get here.....
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Unread 11-08-2013, 07:48 PM   #11
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I also ordered in a upholstery kit from http://www.automotiveinteriors.com/app/seatcovers.php . I got the custom tailored covers in the classic design for both front bucket seats, center seat and rear seat. Price was $613.00 shipped. They also include the hog ring pliers and hog rings for installation. Have to wait for up to 2 weeks for these......
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Unread 11-08-2013, 08:15 PM   #12
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So now onto something cool.

So I been looking at getting a headliner. The original finally warped with time and fell down. It is the typical cardboard/foam/cardboard headliner with no cloth covering. Having looked around it appears they are way expensive for what they are. So I thought I would make my own out of ABS plastic like some have offered in the past. I was not sure about how to make the bend for the edges though. I really did not want to try and thermal bend the edges.

Then I got to looking at Coroplast. In doing some research I found that some had mentioned using Coroplast for headliners, but no one had any right ups or pictures. Seems that there are some Jeep people using Coroplast in the roofs of newer removable tops to keep the heat down in the cab. They are using Coroplast different though. They are taping/gluing it directly to the roof. The more I thought about it, the more I thought it will work for a Cherokee too. So here it is......

I went to my local plastics dealer and picked up two 4x8 sheets of coroplast. The sheets were $15.00 a piece.

Also, while I was out I picked up a 4x8 sheet of Polyisocyanurate foam for $13.57. I will be using this for a heat barrier on the roof. Polyisocyanurate will resist melting from the high temps that the roof may generate on a hot sunny day.
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Unread 11-08-2013, 08:28 PM   #13
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I originally thought that I could make two separate panels similar to the way the original was. I though that I would just have to move the trim piece that connected the two panels together forward some to connect the two new pieces together. When I put the two original pieces together I found out that there is a difference in angles......
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Unread 11-08-2013, 08:40 PM   #14
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So on to plan two. I will have to tape the two Coroplast sheets together so I have enough length for the forward section. Once I taped the sheets together I put the forward portion of the headliner on top to use as a template. Using a permanent marker I traced the outline of the original panel onto the Coroplast. I used a utility knife to make the cuts in the Coroplast. I used two different blades to help make the cutting easier, a straight blade and a hooked blade. Coroplast is a bit tricky to cut with a blade. I found using the hooked blade worked good if I rocked it back and forth and let the blade do the cutting and not forcing the blade. Cutting Coroplast would probably be easier with a jig saw. I wanted to make this as simple as possible in case someone wanted to give it a try and did not have a jig saw. At least you can see that it could be done with a blade.
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Unread 11-08-2013, 08:53 PM   #15
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Now after cutting out the panel it is time to mark the crease line that the original panel had to allow the panel to bend along the edges. I flipped the panel I just cut out over so I could make the cut marks on the back side (unseen side). I could have just cut along the groove on the original panel and made a template, but I wanted to keep the panel in good shape in case I had to make another if I messed up. I marked along the edges of the new and old panel every 3 inches. I then measured the distance from the edge to the crease on every 3 inch mark and transferred that to the new panel. Once I had all the dots I then connected the dots. I wrote the distance down on the one side so I would not have to re-measure for the other side.

Now I went ahead and cut along this line. I cut through the first layer and then put a little bending pressure on the cut line and ran the knife alone the cut until I cut through the flutes enough that the panel bent along the cut. I was careful no to cut all the way through to the other side of the bottom panel.
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