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Unread 04-26-2006, 10:49 AM   #1
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Looking for a point in the right direction

Age old question im sure has been asked before but i cant find what looking for with the search.
Is it possible to find my 88 4.0, 5spd, 4x4, shortbed comanche a 6" suspension lift for under 800 dollars in parts? Excluding wheels, tires, alignment....

i was looking at this one.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWD1V


let me know...thanks in advance

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Unread 04-27-2006, 12:08 PM   #2
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no one has any suggestions or ideas?
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Unread 04-27-2006, 08:51 PM   #3
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First off, i'll say only take what I say worth a grain of salt as I am by no stretch of the imagination a 4x4 expert. now with that said, I looked at this kit and to me it just seemed to have band aid fixes to some crucial parts.

Ex:

3" spring and a 3" spacer up front (why not a full 6" spring?)

extended brake lines (why not new stainless lines that are 6-8" longer than stock?)

no new front lower control arms (I have heard that is a big no no with that size of a lift)

Personally i'm a big fan of the rear SOA bolt on kit they offer.

I imagine that the kit works great IMHO alot of it would have to do with weather you are comfortable driving a truck that is lifted in that manner or not.

Tom
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Unread 04-27-2006, 09:45 PM   #4
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That kit is garbage, IMHO. I've posted regarding it before.


Personally, I think you could put together a better 'kit' for under $800.


Do you have any fab skills? The rear SOA is easy, just weld some spring perches on top of the axle. The front is more ugly in that you'll probably want at least longer LCAs and probably UCAs if you want to have any caster at all. And you'll need a track bar/bracket. Then springs and shocks. And brake lines front and rear.

Just forget about that swaybar nonsense too. And that ******* brake prop valve.


It's that or buy this kit and do what they want and add a ****load of shims behind the LCAs to get the caster close. Not smart.
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Unread 04-27-2006, 10:10 PM   #5
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In order to do 6" correctly there are 2 routes. Long arms or drop brackets. I have run both types of suspension, and both had pluses and minuses.

For around the 800 dollar mark,

RE Drop Brackets. You will need to fab your own drop bracket supports as the ones RE sells wont work with the MJ upfront.

RE HD trac bar and mount

Rusty's 6.5 springs

DT3000 shocks 28", with JKS bayonet eliminators

Crown front brake lines 30"

For the rear you will need some SOA perches, and a 30" brake line


You can use your stock upper and lower control arms with the Drop brackets and have zero issues. I do recommend welding some plate on the bottom sides this will stiffen them and prevent nasty things from happening.

I ran that very setup till I went to Terra long arms. Some ppl say that Terra Flex upgrade LA kit isn't worth a poo, but I have yet to see what they are running Yes it uses a parrallel 4 link, instead of the radias arm setup. both setups have pluses and minuses.

BTW I used all the same parts on my rig still except I am running LA's now
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Unread 04-28-2006, 05:33 PM   #6
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In order to do 6" correctly there are 2 routes. Long arms or drop brackets. I have run both types of suspension, and both had pluses and minuses.

For around the 800 dollar mark,

RE Drop Brackets. You will need to fab your own drop bracket supports as the ones RE sells wont work with the MJ upfront.

RE HD trac bar and mount

Rusty's 6.5 springs

DT3000 shocks 28", with JKS bayonet eliminators

Crown front brake lines 30"

For the rear you will need some SOA perches, and a 30" brake line


You can use your stock upper and lower control arms with the Drop brackets and have zero issues. I do recommend welding some plate on the bottom sides this will stiffen them and prevent nasty things from happening.

I ran that very setup till I went to Terra long arms. Some ppl say that Terra Flex upgrade LA kit isn't worth a poo, but I have yet to see what they are running Yes it uses a parrallel 4 link, instead of the radias arm setup. both setups have pluses and minuses.

BTW I used all the same parts on my rig still except I am running LA's now
great info!! who is RE?

Tom
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SCREW THE COILS AND GET SOME LEAVES!!! :rolling:

if cheap is what you're looking for, find some junkyard leaves and throw them on. you'll need to fab a front spring hanger and if you're any good at fabbing, you can use your stock LCA bracket to mount the leaves in (now, the shackle would be on the front of the frame. IMO, it's great off-road, but sorta sucks on-road). the rear is easy, just weld new perches on it (correcting the pinion-angle while you're at it). a SOA on the rear will give you ~5-6" of lift. if you want more, just throw in some AAL's.

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great info!! who is RE?

Tom
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Unread 05-03-2006, 05:17 PM   #9
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In order to do 6" correctly there are 2 routes. Long arms or drop brackets. I have run both types of suspension, and both had pluses and minuses.

For around the 800 dollar mark,

RE Drop Brackets. You will need to fab your own drop bracket supports as the ones RE sells wont work with the MJ upfront.

RE HD trac bar and mount

Rusty's 6.5 springs

DT3000 shocks 28", with JKS bayonet eliminators

Crown front brake lines 30"

For the rear you will need some SOA perches, and a 30" brake line


You can use your stock upper and lower control arms with the Drop brackets and have zero issues. I do recommend welding some plate on the bottom sides this will stiffen them and prevent nasty things from happening.

I ran that very setup till I went to Terra long arms. Some ppl say that Terra Flex upgrade LA kit isn't worth a poo, but I have yet to see what they are running Yes it uses a parrallel 4 link, instead of the radias arm setup. both setups have pluses and minuses.

BTW I used all the same parts on my rig still except I am running LA's now

are there drop brackets you wouldn't need to fab anything for? and if so what brackets would you need?

Tom
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