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Unread 03-20-2006, 06:30 PM   #1
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axle swap

sry guys if this is a repost,

Ok now that i got my 33s i was wanting to swap the 35 to a 44. I want to know what all i would have to do for it to work right? is there any break swaping involved? is it really worth it?

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Unread 03-21-2006, 11:34 AM   #2
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well if you get a danna 44 from an other mj it will bolt right in...but i believe you'll need to pick up a different length driveshaft. Bake wise the 44 uses 10 inch drums and the 35 uses 9 inch drums and i dont believe you can swap them.
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Unread 03-21-2006, 11:58 AM   #3
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The Ford 8.8 from an Explorer is an even better choice if you can get leaf mounts welded on. Stonger, newer, more available, and 96+ have disk brakes. The wheel bolt pattern is the same as your Jeep and the gear ratio choices are 3.55/3.73/4.10. The axle is about an inch narrower than the Dana 35, but that's not much. If it bother you, the best fix I've heard of is to buy a 1.5" wheel spacer for ONE side, bolt that up to the passenger side to scoot the a little closer to the centerline, and then center the axle and weld on the perches. If I didn't already have an MJ D-44 lying around, I'd be going with an Explorer 8.8. Stay away from other 8.8s from ranger/cars/f-150s because they are either weaker or too wide/narrow.
car-part.com can help locate any axle you want.
This site will give you an idea of what's involved with the swap.
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html
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Unread 03-21-2006, 05:21 PM   #4
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please excuse my stupidity but what is so bad about the dana 35?
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Unread 03-21-2006, 06:53 PM   #5
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please excuse my stupidity but what is so bad about the dana 35?
For stock purposes it is adequate, but it doesn't hold up so well to large tires and off-road punishment, especially with something like the 4.0 for power.
The non-C-clip 35's will hold up to 33's with the 2.5 or 2.8. I beat on one for years in my 2.8L XJ with 33's and 34's. I did end up swapping in a D44 when the 35 died, but it died from lack of oil when I managed to put a tiny hole in the cover and didn't notice it until it locked up going down the freeway at 70 mph... and something like that would have killed any axle.
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Unread 03-21-2006, 07:28 PM   #6
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The Dana 35 is, *at best*, a light-duty axle. I killed the only one I'd ever driven on with a 2wd MJ and 30" tires. I own 3 MJs and as soon as I finish building the '90, they will be running an MJ Dana 44, MJ AMC-20, and a fullsize Ford 9". No more Dana 35s for my fleet. But there are literally millions of them out there and they can be found for dirt cheap. So feel free to drive them till they die, just bring spare shafts (and make friends with someone who owns a trailer).
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Unread 03-21-2006, 07:40 PM   #7
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The 4.0 doesn't seem to have any trouble destroying a D35, but mine lasted >200,000 miles (and ~half of those were with big tires) before I killed it out of my out neglect/stupidity behind the 2.8 - and I've never been very kind to that poor XJ. I've laid it on its side, broken motor and tranny mounts, put the fan thru the radiator, broke driveshafts and transfer cases and even broke an alloy 297 front axle shaft in the D30... but the poor maligned D35 kept plugging on up to the day it starved for oil.

Go figure.
Maybe the fact that it's a non-Clip version
Or maybe it was built on a Wednesday.
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Unread 03-21-2006, 08:04 PM   #8
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Even my Peugeot outlived my Dana 35.
But in its defense, it did last about 170k before it died.
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Unread 03-21-2006, 08:09 PM   #9
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well dose anybody have a complete how to swap the 35 for the 44 and i only want the 44 i dont want the ford. thanks
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Unread 03-21-2006, 09:04 PM   #10
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I tried to fight it but I need to ask.....<hijack> The Mazda Navajo is pretty much a Ford Explorer, right? Does that have the 8.8 in it also? If so I might have a line on a free one (with pretty cool rims on it) </ hijack>
Sorry about the hijack but it was sort of on topic.
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Unread 03-21-2006, 09:25 PM   #11
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My research says yes.
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Unread 03-22-2006, 06:17 AM   #12
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Same animal. I dont think they made the after 95 though so finding one with disc brakes will be hard.


As far as what to do to swap in any rear axle that was not originally made for that vehicle is you need to do research... there are planty of write ups out there concerning this.



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Unread 03-22-2006, 08:24 AM   #13
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well dose anybody have a complete how to swap the 35 for the 44 and i only want the 44 i dont want the ford. thanks
If you got the D44 from a MJ, it would just be a matter of removing the D35 and installing the D44. You should get a 44 with the brakes and drums and get the shock mount plates. The D44 has bigger tubes than the 35. (Alternately, you could slot the holes on the 35 plates, - at least you can on the XJ. You'll need new U-bolts, too. Finish the job off by bleeding the brakes.
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Unread 10-23-2012, 05:38 PM   #14
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Is it possible to replace a D35 with a D34?
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Unread 10-24-2012, 08:31 PM   #15
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What about the 8.25
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