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Unread 09-25-2013, 02:40 PM   #16
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Found that the Stanley brand stuff is between HF and Kobalt/Husky. Plus, you can find Stanley stuff on the clearance racks at Wal-Mart all the time.

I actually bought a bunch of it when KMart bought Sears and started selling Craftsman there. They cleared out all their other tools dirt cheap.

The Kobalt 72 tooth ratchets are nice though. Think they're around $25 each. So smooth...

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Unread 09-25-2013, 03:27 PM   #17
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When trying to warranty a 1/4" drive ratchet at Sears, I was told the policy of replacing with new tools ended 4yrs ago. They now use "refurbished" tools as the replacement.
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Unread 09-26-2013, 07:26 AM   #18
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When trying to warranty a 1/4" drive ratchet at Sears, I was told the policy of replacing with new tools ended 4yrs ago. They now use "refurbished" tools as the replacement.
I recently needed a replacement ratchet, but they were out. They gave me a rebuild kit to do it myself.

Craftsman doesn't make quality tools anymore, but they're ok for the backyard mechanic. I would not go any cheaper. Stay away from Harbor Freight, Husky, or any of the auto parts store tools.
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Unread 09-26-2013, 09:07 PM   #19
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When trying to warranty a 1/4" drive ratchet at Sears, I was told the policy of replacing with new tools ended 4yrs ago. They now use "refurbished" tools as the replacement.
yes. they will only replace with a new one if yours is beyond repair and they are completely out of a rebuilt replacement.
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Unread 09-29-2013, 10:18 PM   #20
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Lowes replaces Kobalt, have returned about 12 torx sockets.
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Unread 10-25-2013, 04:56 PM   #21
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Best way I have found to save money on tools is to properly organize them. I have repeatedly purchased duplicate sockets, feeler gauges, combo wrenches, drill bits, you name it because I have a bad habit of tossing everything into a drawer in my tool boxes. I bought one of those monster 1000 piece tool kits from Sears fifteen years ago but nothing came in a case or holder, so it all ended up haphazardly in one of my two six drawer boxes. I have gotten better, having bought the 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 socket holders for both SAE and metric, even separating the 6 and 12 points, making drill bit holders and using magnetic strips on the back wall on my work bench to give everything else a place to hang. Plus I keep a separate set of tools in my Jeep so that I don't rob the toolbox for a common sized socket and never put it back. I do the same for my bikes, they each have their own toolkit (not the factory junk ones) just in case.
As for brand, my big tool kit was obviously craftsman but since they stopped their famous no questions asked replacement policy I have been slowly replacing broken stuff with either Matco or Snap on, although the craftsman has held up well enough that I doubt I'll live long enough to have to replace everything.
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Unread 10-25-2013, 07:34 PM   #22
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Never put a cheater pipe on your socket wrench to get more leverage! The internal workings in the wrench head are designed for a certain amount of force to be put on them. By increasing those forces due to the lengthening of the torque arm (cheater pipe) you may damage the gears and such or the wrench will fail prematurely. Use the right tool for the job regardless of the price and they will last a life time.
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Unread 10-25-2013, 08:38 PM   #23
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Never put a cheater pipe on your socket wrench to get more leverage! The internal workings in the wrench head are designed for a certain amount of force to be put on them. By increasing those forces due to the lengthening of the torque arm (cheater pipe) you may damage the gears and such or the wrench will fail prematurely. Use the right tool for the job regardless of the price and they will last a life time.
Best $10 you'll ever spend:
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-driv...bar-67932.html

(and you can use a pipe if you REALLY need to, but you'll break the bolt or round the head before that ever happens!)
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Unread 10-26-2013, 06:36 AM   #24
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I have had enough cuts, bruises and scars over the years from using cheap tools that my hands look and feel like crap. My addition to this thread will be this:

Go and buy the BEST tools that you can AFFORD. Get some quality stuff in your toolbox, and as mentioned, keep them organized and you will end up being much happier in the end. Having said that, I do own some very inexpensive tools but even those are now fewer and fewer. A couple issues with cheap tools that I see is that they don't feel good when you pick them up, there is something not ergonomically right to them. The other, they will let you down when you need them the most!

I am not saying you need to go and buy the whole truck from XXX (Snap-On, Mac, etc), but a few quality pieces of what you use the most is a good place to start. If you want to go the "less expensive route", look at Craigs List for some used quality tools. They may still be more money but in the end, a quality piece will last you a lifetime.

It is tough to justify the expense on tools sometimes, but trust me, your body will thank you in the end.
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Unread 11-14-2013, 06:47 PM   #25
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There are very few harbor freight tools that I trust. My tool box at work is made up of some craftman but a lot of it is snap on/blue point a few of my cressent wrenches are cressent brand. You get what you pay for. I say buy the best you can afford and only get the more expensive tools as you need them.
By the way I work at a auto parts manufacturing plant working on very larg machinery for a living so I put my tools to the test. Trust me cheap tools hurt.
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Unread 11-14-2013, 06:58 PM   #26
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If you cant afford snap on buy blue point there the same tool same warranty and a lil cheaper.open a account with the tool truck and pay it off.
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Unread 11-14-2013, 07:11 PM   #27
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If you cant afford snap on buy blue point there the same tool same warranty and a lil cheaper.open a account with the tool truck and pay it off.
I have snap on and blue point. I would not call them the same but very close. The snap ons seem slightly better but not enough to warrant the extra cost except for the cases were the cost is already close.
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Unread 11-18-2013, 03:34 PM   #28
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Get a length (10"/12"/etc..) of pipe and slide onto handle of your ratchet. This will give you the extra leverage that you need without having to purchase the longer socket handle.
I have a 36" length of pipe I call "the persuasion bar". But I will caution you to use it in combination with a breaker bar, not a ratchet (the ratcheting mechanism isn't designed for that kind of leverage).

Sears is not bad but be warned, lifetime warranty does NOT apply to air tools, and most that are motorized, its mainly for sockets and socket sets, screw drivers, and non moving tools. I broke an air ratchet and it wasn't covered, just an FYI.

Harbor Freight, the good and the bad. I admit I do shop there, there are some good deals to be had, but there are also some fools to be had when you buy junk. Simply put, google the item first and see others impressions of it. Some things work out ok (I bought a horizontal / vertical bandsaw for like $239, and after a few tweaks, its as good as a $600 one from northern tool). Lots of the tools are chinese made and tolerances are less than favorable, but if you don't mind a shim here and a trim there to make it work right, its a sure way to save a few bucks.

But in the end, the old saying is true, you DO get what you pay for. It either lasts longer, works better, or usually both. But some lower priced tools may get the job done as well, albeit with a smashed knuckle or two..
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Unread 11-18-2013, 04:09 PM   #29
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I have a 36" length of pipe I call "the persuasion bar". But I will caution you to use it in combination with a breaker bar, not a ratchet (the ratcheting mechanism isn't designed for that kind of leverage).

Sears is not bad but be warned, lifetime warranty does NOT apply to air tools, and most that are motorized, its mainly for sockets and socket sets, screw drivers, and non moving tools. I broke an air ratchet and it wasn't covered, just an FYI.

Harbor Freight, the good and the bad. I admit I do shop there, there are some good deals to be had, but there are also some fools to be had when you buy junk. Simply put, google the item first and see others impressions of it. Some things work out ok (I bought a horizontal / vertical bandsaw for like $239, and after a few tweaks, its as good as a $600 one from northern tool). Lots of the tools are chinese made and tolerances are less than favorable, but if you don't mind a shim here and a trim there to make it work right, its a sure way to save a few bucks.

But in the end, the old saying is true, you DO get what you pay for. It either lasts longer, works better, or usually both. But some lower priced tools may get the job done as well, albeit with a smashed knuckle or two..
I would agree with everything ib this post.
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Unread 11-22-2013, 10:59 AM   #30
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I'm a college student and I don't make much money at my part time job. I have a descent socket wrench and like 8 craftsmen sockets, and the rest are mix and match of different cheaper brands. When I need a tool I'm only gonna use once or not very often, I will go to harbor freight and get it for 9.99. They usually get the job done and when they break you just go buy another if you need to. But main tools like sockets and wrenches I would recommend descent quality for sure.
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