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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:10 PM   #151
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What is MEK? and where do i find it at? What else can I use to clean the frame after I've sanded it? Acetone? Paint thinner? Turpentine? Mineral Spirits?

Will the foam paint brushes work to apply CS? What about polyester brushes? The can says use nylon brushes but I cant find any brushes with nylon bristles....

Also can I use a roller to apply CS to the bottom of my Tub? It would make it alot quicker to do....

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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #152
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What is MEK? and where do i find it at? What else can I use to clean the frame after I've sanded it? Acetone? Paint thinner? Turpentine? Mineral Spirits?

Will the foam paint brushes work to apply CS? What about polyester brushes? The can says use nylon brushes but I cant find any brushes with nylon bristles....

Also can I use a roller to apply CS to the bottom of my Tub? It would make it alot quicker to do....
Methyl Ethyl Ketone is a solvent. In the paint dept of every Home Depot and Lowes

Acetone works, No turps
Min Spirits can be used to wipe surfaces but just let it evaporate 1 hour before putting CS on surface. Xylol also works and is available where MEK is sold usually. NEVER USE LACQUER THINNER anywhere near Chassis Saver. It can have alcohols in it and make CS not cure correctly.

Foam brushes work, polyester is good also, forget nylon that's old info

You can roll if you go very slow not to make bubbles and must use a very low nap roller. Foam rollers work well
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Unread 06-18-2011, 06:14 PM   #153
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Are you able to just paint right over the rust right?

Obviously after just knocking off the heavy loose but leaving the rest? does it convert it?

What i plan on doing is wire brushing most of the rust i might have painting it with the Chassis saver including axles and spring perches,

undercoat the jeep with the Chassis saver.

Problem is i already have some 3m undercoating spray on there should i try and get that off? or clean it super well and paint over it.

i found this one time pulling up my carpet dry it out damn rain. so trying to be as proactive as possible
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Unread 06-19-2011, 01:52 AM   #154
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Foam brushes work, polyester is good also, forget nylon that's old info
foam brushes work for a bit, but then they dissolve and start flaking. I had that problem and went through 18 brushes to do 2 coats. After a while the brush starts leaving chunks behind, so u need to change often, which is a bit of a waste of CS.
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Unread 06-19-2011, 04:12 AM   #155
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wire wheel that rust to get all the bulk off then hit the entire area that you wire wheeled with 50 grit sandpaper and make it really good and rough, then paint chassis saver over it and you will be happy.

You dont want to just wire wheel because it actually plishes the steel and hurts adhesion.
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Unread 06-19-2011, 12:48 PM   #156
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foam brushes work for a bit, but then they dissolve and start flaking. I had that problem and went through 18 brushes to do 2 coats. After a while the brush starts leaving chunks behind, so u need to change often, which is a bit of a waste of CS.
That's interesting because we have been using foam brushes for years with no issues. There may be some bad foam brushes out there that get attacked by the solvent.

Any cheap regular paint brush works. If you have the white/beige bristle stuff called "chip brushes" just work the bristles before use to get the loose ones to come out so they don't get into the finish
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Unread 06-22-2011, 10:27 PM   #157
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OK I'm DONE with the sanding and cleaning. going to use MEK to do a final solvent clean then brush CS on. How long should I wait to paint after rubbing the MEK on? Obviously I want to let it evaporate but how long? Its says to wait 1hr for Acetone on the can and MEK is slower to evap than acetone.....HELP!
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OK I'm DONE with the sanding and cleaning. going to use MEK to do a final solvent clean then brush CS on. How long should I wait to paint after rubbing the MEK on? Obviously I want to let it evaporate but how long? Its says to wait 1hr for Acetone on the can and MEK is slower to evap than acetone.....HELP!
MEK will be gone before you can open the can of Chassis Saver. Don't worry they are all compatible anyway.

FYI: Acetone would be gone before you could take 3 breaths
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LOL...ok that's what I wanted to know. Thanks man. IF my garden sprayer idea works I'll post up a pic or two of it. Mabey a video if I can figure out how to do that Later man
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How much CS do you estimate it took to do 2 coats on this whole frame?

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Did the first coat of Chassis Saver on my frame yesterday, took almost a full afternoon to brush the 1 coat. I found in some areas if I slightly thinned it I could get it to creep into the little areas..

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I was extremely happy so far with both the ease of application and the coating itself, the plan is to do another coat and then a few coats of Tremclad Professional for the parts exposed to sun..
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How much CS do you estimate it took to do 2 coats on this whole frame?
probably around 3/4's of a quart. I brushed the first coat and sprayed the second, a little paint seemed to go a very long way . When I bought it, the sales guy said I would need 2 I'm glad I got the second one though..

great product so far, in total I have 2 coats of CS and 1 topcoat
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probably around 3/4's of a quart. I brushed the first coat and sprayed the second, a little paint seemed to go a very long way . When I bought it, the sales guy said I would need 2 I'm glad I got the second one though..

great product so far, in total I have 2 coats of CS and 1 topcoat
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Unread 06-24-2011, 09:35 AM   #163
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How much CS do you estimate it took to do 2 coats on this whole frame?
I know this isnt directed at me, but ill give you some more examples

I used all but 3/4 of a quart from a gallon kit. This is 2 coats inside and out on the frame. The first inside frame coat was sprayed out of a pesticide sprayer, really inneficient btw. the second was with a sponge. The interior of the frame was a really wasteful process. lots poured out of the ends and holes.

Overall chassis saver goes on real well.

It does take a long time to paint tho. and buy at least 24 foam brushes at lowes for 4 bucks a 6 pack. I had to go through them real quick. dont know about more expensive foam brushes
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I know this isnt directed at me, but ill give you some more examples

I used all but 3/4 of a quart from a gallon kit. This is 2 coats inside and out on the frame. The first inside frame coat was sprayed out of a pesticide sprayer, really inneficient btw. the second was with a sponge. The interior of the frame was a really wasteful process. lots poured out of the ends and holes.

Overall chassis saver goes on real well.

It does take a long time to paint tho. and buy at least 24 foam brushes at lowes for 4 bucks a 6 pack. I had to go through them real quick. dont know about more expensive foam brushes
I was going to coat the inside with CS but as mentioned above, its very wasteful, that **** is liquid gold. Instead I am going to borrow a waxoyl sprayer from work and do the inside with that. Even though it brushed on awesome I would still recommend spraying it to get into all the little spots.

I'll post pics of the finished product w/ topcoat when I have the chance.

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Unread 06-24-2011, 09:17 PM   #165
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Well, I got the second coat of CS on the outside of the frame today. With 2 full thin coats on the frame I have only used a little more than a quart. And only 3 paint brushes . One 3" wide and two 1" wide detail brushes. Im gonna try the garden sprayer with my own personal twist to it in the morning. I really hope that it works.

BTW-I didnt have any Glad Wrap to cover the top of the can with before replacing the lid. I did use wax papaer and it seems to be working ok so far.
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