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post #11176 of 13170 Old 09-22-2013, 05:20 PM
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Hey!

Anyone from upstate NY / Vermont / Lake George area

This Saturday I am going to be here representing Monstaliner



Stop by and get a Pink MONSTA decal!
I think my jeep needs a pink monsta! How do i get my hands on one??

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post #11177 of 13170 Old 09-26-2013, 03:38 PM
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I measured fairly precisely with a tape measure, the entire exterior of my ZJ and if anything tried to error on the side of measuring a little larger in some areas than might be needed.

I came up with approx 148.5 sq ft for a ZJ full exterior after taking all my inches x inches measurments and then dividing by 144 to get sq ft. With an average estimated 2 coats over 60 sq ft coverage per gallon of Monsta that is just under 2.5 gallons of liner for 2 coats on the whole exterior. These measurements do not include the door jambs at all.

Took me like an hour to measure everything and do the math but it is good to know the approx sq ft of a ZJ now. When I do end up doing it I think I will get 3 gallons to be safe, would have loved to do it in 2 gallons and save a decent chunk of change on the job but I dont want light spots or to run out towards the end.

Also I just measured and subtracted the cladding, bumpers, and rockers from the previous total since I was thinking about doing two tone with black bumpers/side cladding/rockers and everything above it in tintable liner. I came up with approx 110.3 sq ft for the exterior minus the cladding, bumpers, rockers and approx 38.2 sq ft for the bumpers, cladding, rockers.

So I could theoretically do 2 gallons of tintable on the body and might be able to get away with 2 quarts of black for the bumpers, cladding, and rocker panels. But even if I end up getting a whole gallon of black it would still save me a little money doing it that way vs all 3 gallons of tintable, especially since I think I might do Predator and thats like $50 per gallon for tint and thats not cheap (to me) that $50 saved there would pay for the gallon of white universal primer I need to base coat for the Predator.

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I measured fairly precisely with a tape measure, the entire exterior of my ZJ and if anything tried to error on the side of measuring a little larger in some areas than might be needed.

I came up with approx 146 sq ft for a ZJ full exterior after taking all my inches x inches measurments and then dividing by 144 to get sq ft. With an average estimated 2 coats over 60 sq ft coverage per gallon of Monsta that is just under 2.5 gallons of liner for 2 coats on the whole exterior.

Took me like an hour to measure everything and do the math but it is good to know the approx sq ft of a ZJ now. When I do end up doing it I think I will get 3 gallons to be safe, would have loved to do it in 2 gallons and save a decent chunk of change on the job but I dont want light spots or to run out towards the end.
do i smell a three gallon package deal coming up?
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post #11179 of 13170 Old 09-27-2013, 07:34 AM
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Hey magnetman, It probably has already bee discussed but I have a lot of seam sealer in my jeep, and I mean A LOT! Should I remove it all or just scuff the paint on it and roll over it?
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....I have searched, maybe I didn't do it the most thorough job....but i am trying to keep the Islander yellow I have now...the colors I would more than likely use all say they contain LEAD. Does this pose any health risk inside the jeep? I know, silly right? But I am curious (thanks Cali!!)
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post #11181 of 13170 Old 09-27-2013, 07:46 AM Thread Starter
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Hey magnetman, It probably has already bee discussed but I have a lot of seam sealer in my jeep, and I mean A LOT! Should I remove it all or just scuff the paint on it and roll over it?
Seam sealer can be sciffed and coated over same as it was in the factory with the OEM paint

People have removed it with considerable effort when they did not like the looks.

Is there sound dampening goop in there as well?
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post #11182 of 13170 Old 09-27-2013, 07:58 AM
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I started removing my seam sealer and stopped. What a pain. I actually put it back in where I had taken it out. The Monstaliner covered it perfectly. This was an 88 yj.
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Hey magnetman, It probably has already bee discussed but I have a lot of seam sealer in my jeep, and I mean A LOT! Should I remove it all or just scuff the paint on it and roll over it?
I easily removed the majority of my seam sealer from the floor area with a stiff putty knife, it came up pretty easy because it was hiding rust underneath it

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Seam sealer can be sciffed and coated over same as it was in the factory with the OEM paint

People have removed it with considerable effort when they did not like the looks.

Is there sound dampening goop in there as well?
Ok I will just leave it if it doesnt effect the ML, less work.
Not sure about sound dampening material, where would it be located and what kind of material is it?

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post #11185 of 13170 Old 09-27-2013, 09:40 AM
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I easily removed the majority of my seam sealer from the floor area with a stiff putty knife, it came up pretty easy because it was hiding rust underneath it
Mine has almost no rust anywhere, not too worried about that. This is my preventative measure and its awesome lol.

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post #11186 of 13170 Old 09-29-2013, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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post #11187 of 13170 Old 09-29-2013, 03:07 PM
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Thank you Eric... I'm placing my order this afternoon in order to take advantage of your September promotion. I can't find the coverage information for the 2K epoxy primer. I need to cover 100 square feet on the ZJ (white part). I'm planning to order the 2 gallon kit... but don't know if I can get away with the one coat kit. Also... do I need to do two coats of the primer... and does the coverage info include two coats.

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Is this all you need to know?

To sand to bare metal use 60 grit and it will go fast. Take that roof down to metal and get rid of the rust
Prime all with 2K epoxy primer. It rolls nicely, get white hot dog rollers at HD or Lowes
Recoat the primer within 2 days or you need to scuff it. You can ML over the primer in 3 hours

Not sure on your ML requirements. May do it with 1 gal ea WHT + BLK/GRAY. Do some measurements. Coverage = 60 sq ft from 1 gal. Can't use tomorrow what you mixed with catalyst today. Do WHT 1 day, BLK or Gray next day

See here for plastic prep
http://www.monstaliner.com/documents...ng_Plastic.pdf

Tips: Have a good helper, good lighting, no beers, women make the best supervisors for jobs like this (I'm not kidding)
No White Castles, eat fruit only or salad with lemon juice and balsamic

Edit: I don't think 1 gal of white will be enough. Do the measurements and let me know what you have

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2 gals of primer is way too much.

Coverage stated on most regular paints and primers is usually based on 1 coat.
So if 1 gallon is stated to cover 350 - 400 sq ft you would split in 1/2 for 2 coats

Epoxy Primer/Universal Primer both cover 80 - 100 sq ft per qt, gallons cover 350 - 400 sf

A 2 quart kit of Epoxy primer would go 160 - 200 in 1 coat, 2 gal kit @ 700 - 800 sf

Side note: We explain ML to go only 60 sq ft per gallon in 2 coats because it's always recommended as a 2 coat system and 1 coat only would not get the thickness you need or produce the results it was designed for
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I think I misread what you wrote referring to 2 gal kit of ML not primer?
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Hi Eric... I was referring to the MagnaPoxy 2k epoxy primer. You answered my question... looks like the two quart version will be enough.

Is it recommended to do 1 or 2 coats of MagnaPoxy if I am doing it over bare metal?

Many thanks,

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2 gals of primer is way too much.

Coverage stated on most regular paints and primers is usually based on 1 coat.
So if 1 gallon is stated to cover 350 - 400 sq ft you would split in 1/2 for 2 coats

Epoxy Primer/Universal Primer both cover 80 - 100 sq ft per qt, gallons cover 350 - 400 sf

A 2 quart kit of Epoxy primer would go 160 - 200 in 1 coat, 2 gal kit @ 700 - 800 sf

Side note: We explain ML to go only 60 sq ft per gallon in 2 coats because it's always recommended as a 2 coat system and 1 coat only would not get the thickness you need or produce the results it was designed for

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