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Unread 05-28-2013, 10:30 PM   #10471
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Keep in mind that if you wait more than 8 hours you need to let it go to 24 hrs to cure better and then scuff before recoating

If you happy with it stop now and save the other gallon.
i think i Will do this and if (i hope it doesn't) theres a incident i Will have more to fix it.
i am completely satisfied And when i replace my windshield the monsta sticker is going in the passenger side top or bottom. haven't decided yet. iv noticed this a problem of mine....

let me know when the new stickers are available for purchase because i want one for my side window.

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Unread 05-29-2013, 05:04 AM   #10472
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You're always best off pulling tape immediately after 2nd coat is done. You never know what can happen where you can't get back to it soon enough and then pull tape too late and screw it up. If you waited overnight you would be cursing with what happens
Tape marks on my weather stripping every where because I did this.
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Unread 05-30-2013, 06:17 AM   #10473
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received my order of monstaliner and chassis saver yesterday. I was curious how it would come packed. pretty legit setup, i was pleasantly surprised!
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Unread 05-30-2013, 01:02 PM   #10474
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Hey MagnetMan. I just finished up the first coat on my Kubota RTV bed. I am waiting for it to dry now for the second coat. The first coat went great. It's 90 degrees here in VA today and the humidity is up. I think it will dry quickly. I put the gallon in my shop fridge with the top on until I'm ready for the second coat. Enjoying a tall, cool budweiser as I type. I also did the kick panels in it and tailgate of my tacoma truck(already has the plastic bedliner). Hopefully I will have some nice pics for you soon!
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Unread 05-30-2013, 01:36 PM   #10475
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Hey MagnetMan. I just finished up the first coat on my Kubota RTV bed. I am waiting for it to dry now for the second coat. The first coat went great. It's 90 degrees here in VA today and the humidity is up. I think it will dry quickly. I put the gallon in my shop fridge with the top on until I'm ready for the second coat. Enjoying a tall, cool budweiser as I type. I also did the kick panels in it and tailgate of my tacoma truck(already has the plastic bedliner). Hopefully I will have some nice pics for you soon!
This is the new recommendation for hot weather applications:

Sprinkle some of your MEK or acetone over the surface of remaining stuff in the gallon to prevent skinning. Enough so you see a shallow puddle.

Mix the stuff in when you start 2nd coat but inspect first before mixing so you don't mix any skin or chunks into coating
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Unread 05-30-2013, 02:06 PM   #10476
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Just did as you said. There was a slight film already that I removed pretty easily then added some mek.Thanks!
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Unread 05-30-2013, 04:39 PM   #10477
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Just finished 2nd coat and peeled off tape. All in all, the process went good. I did have a few chunks here and there. I got most of them out. Mek kept mix from skimming again just like you said
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Unread 05-30-2013, 05:06 PM   #10478
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That was definitely a tip that I had not heard yet. Glad I am following along. Any more undocumented tips? I would like to keep track of them just in case I have missed some or all of them.

Hoping to start mine very soon. Broken foot and all!
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Unread 05-30-2013, 09:47 PM   #10479
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Been reading up on ML, ordered some chips, thinking about doing my complete CJ.
Just think if you dipped your whole tub in the stuff...
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Unread 05-30-2013, 10:00 PM   #10480
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I'm at about 4500 feet for elevation here in WY, air is pretty dry here, anybody have experience with it in similar conditions?
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Unread 05-30-2013, 10:03 PM   #10481
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If I could only schedule two one hour sessions in a big dip tank of the stuff... Dreaming... Dipping all under stuff in undercoating and upper parts in the ML. With a little creative masking and a full size rotisserie, I would bet it would be awesome! Love the smell of that MEK already!
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-led third light mods that sit in the two spare tire lug holes.
-because of above - removed ugly third light tower completely
-smitty top end grab handles
-20" LED light bar 10 degree spot (installed now and blindingly operational)
-50" LED light bar 20 degree flood ( changed to 30" in center 3 tabs, installed but not wired)
-windshield mount light bar (done)
-winch 8000# smitty
-Monstaliner complete pan in red head(as soon as they deliver it) (done)
-Carpet removed
-corbeau RS reclining seats
-corbeau water proof seat covers
-corbeau seat mount replacements (removes tilt forward passenger seat)
-AXD 430 receiver http://www.crutchfield.com/p_070AXD4...-Receiver.html
-hood hinge mount for my hi lift jack
-Headlight replacements
-tremendous mt 31.5/10.5 15s on nice alloy rims
-Everything else is stock... For now

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Unread 05-30-2013, 10:13 PM   #10482
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I'm at about 4500 feet for elevation here in WY, air is pretty dry here, anybody have experience with it in similar conditions?
No issues with elevation only high heat much more so that humidity
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Unread 05-30-2013, 10:30 PM   #10483
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That was definitely a tip that I had not heard yet. Glad I am following along. Any more undocumented tips? I would like to keep track of them just in case I have missed some or all of them.

Hoping to start mine very soon. Broken foot and all!
Another useful tip on handling Monstaliner...

As we get into the summer... HEAT IS YOUR ENEMY when installing Monstaliner. Humidity is always a factor but heat affects application & drying much more.

Heat shortens pot life of the mixed coating in the can. Heat makes what you just rolled dry faster.

Humidity affects what you just rolled but affects the pot life less than heat. Humidity will cause skinning in the can as much as heat.

As you get into using a gallon of liner and the can starts to be less than full...
you pour more in your roller tray and coating starts to build up on the inside walls of the can.
When you finish your first coat, before closing up the can to wait for your 2nd coat... get a cheap food scraper like pictured (dollar store) and scrape down the inside walls of the can... then pour a small amount of MEK or Acetone over the surface and seal up the can.

Always inspect the material clinging to the sides of the can before scraping it into the gallon. It should still be wet, not drying up and skinning over or you will risk mixing chunks into the can.

Post any questions on this, I want to make sure I explained it correctly
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Unread 05-30-2013, 11:16 PM   #10484
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How about replacing the air in the can with nitrogen? I have a can that allows this. Or I could use co2 easily. The can has a little valve and those little cylinders for pellet guns work on it. Any cautions there? I think that I even have some with nitrous oxide in them. Pour, close top, press purge valve, press cylinder trigger, close purge valve and you are done.

Not that I am that slow but it has happened before that something just happens.
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-New Bestop replacement
-Orfab front bumper (DONE)
-CRS rear bumper
-CRS rear bumper tire mount swing arm.
-led third light mods that sit in the two spare tire lug holes.
-because of above - removed ugly third light tower completely
-smitty top end grab handles
-20" LED light bar 10 degree spot (installed now and blindingly operational)
-50" LED light bar 20 degree flood ( changed to 30" in center 3 tabs, installed but not wired)
-windshield mount light bar (done)
-winch 8000# smitty
-Monstaliner complete pan in red head(as soon as they deliver it) (done)
-Carpet removed
-corbeau RS reclining seats
-corbeau water proof seat covers
-corbeau seat mount replacements (removes tilt forward passenger seat)
-AXD 430 receiver http://www.crutchfield.com/p_070AXD4...-Receiver.html
-hood hinge mount for my hi lift jack
-Headlight replacements
-tremendous mt 31.5/10.5 15s on nice alloy rims
-Everything else is stock... For now

-next items
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Unread 05-30-2013, 11:24 PM   #10485
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How about replacing the air in the can with nitrogen? I have a can that allows this. Or I could use co2 easily. The can has a little valve and those little cylinders for pellet guns work on it. Any cautions there? I think that I even have some with nitrous oxide in them. Pour, close top, press purge valve, press cylinder trigger, close purge valve and you are done.

Not that I am that slow but it has happened before that something just happens.
Purging the can with nitrogen would work but the solvent does the same thing to prevent oxygen contact with surface. In situations where temps are very high the nitrogen may not prevent skinning. Remember you're also battling the catalyst action in the gallon

Solvent float is still simplest and it's what everyone has on hand when working with ML

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