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post #10141 of 13211 Old 04-26-2013, 10:11 AM Thread Starter
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Drooping suspension? Sounds like something on an old woman

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post #10142 of 13211 Old 04-26-2013, 10:11 AM
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I have to use my hi-lift if I want to get my suspension to completely droop. Though I've only had to do it like once or twice.
Some bigger jack stands and a real floor jack would fix that. With a 4" suspension lift I can easily put the frame on jackstands and droop the suspension. That's without tires of course, which I can't see why you would need them on in that situation anyway.

But to each his own.
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post #10143 of 13211 Old 04-26-2013, 10:19 AM
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Some bigger jack stands and a real floor jack would fix that. With a 4" suspension lift I can easily put the frame on jackstands and droop the suspension. That's without tires of course, which I can't see why you would need them on in that situation anyway.

But to each his own.
Uh, even with 6 ton jack/stands I still have to crank it most of the way before it even starts lifting. From the ground to my "frame" rail it's about 24 inches.

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Pretty sure my jackstands are 6 ton as well, and I'm somewhere over 20 couple inches at the frame. Lifting from the axles and placing the jack stands under the frame just behind/in front of the control arm brackets I can let both axles droop as far as they can go. But that's on a TJ, YMMV with an XJ; I have no idea.

Regardless, I wouldn't use a widow maker anytime I don't have to.
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post #10145 of 13211 Old 04-26-2013, 10:26 AM
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Holm-z how long has that spray paint been cured?
Last full coat was 2 days ago, last night touched up a few other spots so only like 18 hours or so

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post #10146 of 13211 Old 04-26-2013, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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Last full coat was 2 days ago, last night touched up a few other spots so only like 18 hours or so
Be careful, I would let fresh spray paint cure longer before ML
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okay I give up...what is it?
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I have the ACE Crawler Rock Rails that came as raw steel. I'd like to Monstaliner them, and I've seen how people have prepped painted surfaces and plastic surfaces, but I couldn't find anything on bare, raw steel.
^ This would've been a nice time to hear the chorus saying that Monstaliner isn't going to hold up on rock rails. You know... before I dropped $100 and permanently coated them.

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Lol, funny that some folks can't understand the limitations of paint.
It's funny you should say that. I thought I was paying $100 for something more than paint.

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Why people put any kind of coating like bed liner or powder coat on skid plates, rocker guards, bumpers, etc. is beyond me.
Rust prevention was my intended goal. Tell me... how would you prevent rust on raw steel rock sliders? Just leave them bare?

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True.. even a high quality powder coating would have a problem with 1/2 the vehicle weight against the small area on that jack hook
The powder coating on my rock rails on my TJ held up just fine to repeated use of my Hi-Lift jack (but got scratched to hell in rock gardens, of course ). As for the earlier comment that the same would happen on my front bumper: I've often jacked it up by the powdercoated front bumper with no ill effects.

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Also.. with the primer that many choose to use being rattle can crap, I want to say that epoxy primer would probably do better. Those spots appear to be down to the metal
Sure. If the epoxy primer had been available in smaller quantities, I definitely would've paid for it. But that's the whole reason I posted in here and asked you what to use on my raw steel sliders. Your response:

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Avoid self etch primers. Too many issues with Monstaliner sticking well

Best locally available item for spot priming bare steel and small projects: Rustoleum "Automotive" Primer in spray cans

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I have to use my hi-lift if I want to get my suspension to completely droop. Though I've only had to do it like once or twice.
Bingo. Swapping out suspension components in my garage, and I don't have a floor jack. I use the Hi-Lift to get it up on a jack stand.

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I don't mean to be a downer: I think the Monstaliner is a great product. It looks fantastic, it's relatively easy to apply, and the texture is great. I just hope nobody else buys it hoping/expecting that it'll be every bit as tough as powdercoating (or even Line-X). If I were lining my Jeep tub, I'd go with Monstaliner again no questions asked. But for anything that is expected to stand up to physical contact and lots of force, I wouldn't use the same product. If the consensus is that my expectations were unreasonable, that's fine... I just hope we can do a better job of helping n00bs in this thread set reasonable expectations in the future.

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post #10153 of 13211 Old 04-26-2013, 06:42 PM
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Hey Eric,
I'm going to be spraying my YJ next weekend with the Dark Burnt Orange.

How much should I thin each gallon for spaying? With MEK?

What are the recommended settings for the Walcom Shutz gun?

Any other advice you can give me before I spray?

Everything has been coated with CS and I'm in the process of scuffing it all down again now. I will be cleaning and wiping everything with MEK before I start to spray.

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Now I'm upset, I want one!

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Is it a Bren cutter? I have been using one for 20 years and it still cuts like it's new. Pm me if you need any help with it or the program.
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