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Unread 03-17-2010, 07:42 PM   #631
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Pretty much. Just make sure you make it through any wax, and scuff up the paint for adhesion. Wipe with MEK to remove all the grease and grime, and you are ready to go.

I know a CJ is different than a TJ, but I am assuming it is still a regular old piece of steel with some paint on it.

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Unread 03-18-2010, 09:06 AM   #632
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so just scuff the paint a little MEK and good togo? lol dont want to try and strip it after also
Don't know what kind of paint is on this surface but you may want to scuff this with some regular 120 grit sandpaper if the supplied abrasive pad is not sufficient
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Unread 03-18-2010, 09:39 AM   #633
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it is rustoleum spray can. will take the sand paper too it
also any word on when my stuff shipped?
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Unread 03-18-2010, 10:00 AM   #634
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it is rustoleum spray can. will take the sand paper too it
also any word on when my stuff shipped?
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Caution with the spray paint only because I have not tested this before
Spray paint is weak in that some solvents will bite into it. We don't want another problem like the tub.

Please put some mineral spirits on a white rag and rub spray paint to see if it comes off on rag.... let me know what happens. Need to know if spray paint seems like it is softening and getting sticky
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Unread 03-18-2010, 10:07 AM   #635
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Viencent, post up some pics of the thing in progress. Looking forward to seeing how much of a pain it will become

PS Born in Waco myself. Do you wheel your CJ?
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Unread 03-18-2010, 10:49 AM   #636
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magnetman, went to your site and the red looks real good, any word on availiability? are your still recomending the silver saver as the prefered undercoating for rust. Thanks
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Unread 03-18-2010, 02:46 PM   #637
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magnetman, went to your site and the red looks real good, any word on availiability? are your still recomending the silver saver as the prefered undercoating for rust. Thanks
Thanks, the red is nice and we will be doing a few reds.
Are you looking for a Safety/Fire Engine Red or a darker red like International Harvester Red?

As far as Chassis Saver goes, we recommend the silver because it is more corrosion resistant. The contrasting color of silver also makes it easier to see where you have covered so far while working.

Just be sure to sand the original paint in the tub well to remove any gloss before applying Chassis Saver. If the included scuff pad wears out before you finish just use some 100 or 120 grit sandpaper.

A note to anyone using Chassis Saver under Monstaliner: If you are using Gloss Black Chassis Saver, you want to install bedliner within 24 hours after the Chassis Saver or we recommend that you lightly scuff sand the CS surface to ensure good adhesion. Silver is less of an issue since it cures with a duller surface but you still do not want to wait longer than 48 hours before bedliner install without scuffing.

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Unread 03-18-2010, 04:17 PM   #638
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Just be sure to sand the original paint in the tub well to remove any gloss before applying Chassis Saver. If the included scuff pad wears out before you finish just use some 100 or 120 grit sandpaper.

A note to anyone using Chassis Saver under Monstaliner: If you are using Gloss Black Chassis Saver, you want to install bedliner within 24 hours after the Chassis Saver or we recommend that you lightly scuff sand the CS surface to ensure good adhesion. Silver is less of an issue since it cures with a duller surface but you still do not want to wait longer than 48 hours before bedliner install without scuffing.
I don't know how much experience you have with Chrysler (more specifically Jeep) paint, but it is REALLY thin and easy to cut through. 100 grit could probably scratch right through the primer if you are not careful. When we sanded the tub, we were barely rubbing (like lightly staining wood with a rag). I personally would stick with the finer paper.

I am glad you posted the info on the differences between the two colors. I could remember what you said before exactly, and I think that clears it up a bit.
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Unread 03-18-2010, 04:31 PM   #639
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re you looking for a Safety/Fire Engine Red or a darker red like International Harvester Red. I am thinking the darker red would work best. Any other opinions are welcome its a Red 98 TJ.
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So magnetman, now that you see what we're talking about in terms of abuse (e.g. in the video, running stuff over rocks and such), would you say Gloss Black Chassis Saver would be a good paint to use on things like axle tubes and control arms and such that would take that kind of abuse? Or would we be better off just rattle-canning it and touching it up periodically?
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Question? I had to take a lot of the bed down to bare metal. Should I apply more than one coat of chassis saver?
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Question? I had to take a lot of the bed down to bare metal. Should I apply more than one coat of chassis saver?
I don't think it's necessary in a jeep. If it was a pickup bed I might think to use 2 coats before the bedliner since it would take more abuse.

Just make sure to rough the metal well before the Chassis Saver (60 or at least 80 grit)
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I don't think it's necessary in a jeep. If it was a pickup bed I might think to use 2 coats before the bedliner since it would take more abuse.

Just make sure to rough the metal well before the Chassis Saver (60 or at least 80 grit)
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I used 80 grit
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Don't forget the mandatory pics when you are done


MagnetMan, I have noticed quite a big number of folks changing the story of "Go with Raptor, don't bother with herc or any of the others." It is amazing how quickly good work got out about this stuff. I take it that sales have increased more than enough to make this new venture worth it. One of the vendors said after about a week that his first few days (as a vendor, he was a member before that) paid for the vendor status alone. It is great to see that JF has the capability to support a mutually beneficial relationship between members and vendors.

Keep up the good work, and get us some picters of Moar Culers

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Unread 03-18-2010, 11:13 PM   #645
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I used 80 grit
That's good. A quart of Chassis Saver covers 90 sq ft so you can certainly double coat if you feel more comfortable.

You took the #98 Gray which is glossy. Just be sure to install Monstaliner within 24 hours after the CS or you need to scuff sand the CS with 120 or finer.

By the way, CS gray may brush a bit heavy. You can add 10% MEK for brushing and it will spread further. Don't thin in the original can. Remove what you will use and thin in a coffee can for brushing.

Please take photos of the bare tub and then with CS so I can use them on some new web pages.
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