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Unread 03-11-2010, 11:45 PM   #556
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I think the silver would be cool because it would blend into the floor. That might make it a pain to put down though. Unless I put some dark color underneath to add contrast. I would only want a light color if it was silver. Otherwise I would go with black or a dark gray like gunmetal.

Is there any difference to applying it in four coats then in two coats?
Not sure I understand question. 4 coats is thicker.
You would not get as much texture by roller if you apply it too thick at once.
I think the questions about 4 versus 2 is asking if there would be any issues in putting down 4 coats, and if there is any difference between coats.

Edit: throwing a ] at the end of /QUOTE will end the quote You probably know that already.

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POR-15 metal ready (phosphoric acid solution) does not always work. You DON'T WANT SMOOTH SHINY STEEL for application of something like POR or Chassis Saver. You must have a profile on the metal or it can peel in sheets.
Now that's something I didn't know. I've been considering applying this to a front bumper, at least part of which is going to be aluminum. Any particular other steps or recommendations for that? Or will touch-up be too much of a pain to make it worth while? I thought about using a satin UV-resistant clear coat over gloss black Chassis Saver.

Then again I'm not really sure how you apply Chassis Saver, whether you must brush it on or if you can spray it on, nor how much coverage you get out of a quart. I imagine quite a bit.

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You would have to feel that stuff peeling from Firekite's truck to determine what it is. Undercoat is soft. That looks rigid like plastic. Peeling Rhino would feel like that. We have no idea how old that stuff is and it could be just a bad install. There are plenty of them out there. It looks thin which indicates a budget job.
The truck's a 2007. It can't be THAT old. It does bend as you can see from the pics, but it's not spongy or rubbery to the touch, more like dry, dusty, textured plastic. However, it seems a helluvalot thicker than the application on the sample that finally came in the mail today (helped seal the deal for me, btw).

But god knows it must surely be a budget job, because like I said it really looks like they had it delivered and then had one of their guys hit it with the liner, as-is. It was a fleet vehicle (well, it's a PSD 4x4 Lariat, so I think it must've been for a foreman) for a local foundation company up in Boerne. Put 150k miles on it before I bought it last September (2009) used from a used car place here that specializes almost exclusively in trucks. They probably knew they were going to put a metric ****ton of miles on it and get rid of it two or three years later anyway, so they didn't bother doing it right.
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Unread 03-11-2010, 11:54 PM   #558
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I think the questions about 4 versus 2 is asking if there would be any issues in putting down 4 coats, and if there is any difference between coats.

Edit: throwing a ] at the end of /QUOTE will end the quote You probably know that already.
No issues with more coats. I have a panel with at least 30 coats.

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Sounds good. I have also been thinking that I might throw down another coat if I crack open the can.
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61 square feet. If you can wait a few weeks I will tell you more both about white and if 1 gallon will do it.
I'm OK going Black if I decide on your product... I'd rather get in on the special deal... good to know that 1 Gal will cover it! What is the "approx" coverage for 1 Gal?
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Unread 03-12-2010, 12:07 AM   #561
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Wade, I think he was saying that 1 gallon will cover 61 square feet, and that he will get back to you on info for white and if it should cover the bed with just 1 gallon.
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Now that's something I didn't know. I've been considering applying this to a front bumper, at least part of which is going to be aluminum. Any particular other steps or recommendations for that? Or will touch-up be too much of a pain to make it worth while? I thought about using a satin UV-resistant clear coat over gloss black Chassis Saver.

Then again I'm not really sure how you apply Chassis Saver, whether you must brush it on or if you can spray it on, nor how much coverage you get out of a quart. I imagine quite a bit.


The truck's a 2007. It can't be THAT old. It does bend as you can see from the pics, but it's not spongy or rubbery to the touch, more like dry, dusty, textured plastic. However, it seems a helluvalot thicker than the application on the sample that finally came in the mail today (helped seal the deal for me, btw).

But god knows it must surely be a budget job, because like I said it really looks like they had it delivered and then had one of their guys hit it with the liner, as-is. It was a fleet vehicle (well, it's a PSD 4x4 Lariat, so I think it must've been for a foreman) for a local foundation company up in Boerne. Put 150k miles on it before I bought it last September (2009) used from a used car place here that specializes almost exclusively in trucks. They probably knew they were going to put a metric ****ton of miles on it and get rid of it two or three years later anyway, so they didn't bother doing it right.
Monsta touch up is easy.
Don't bother with clear over CHassis Saver it don't work. Use a satin black paint instead.

Gloss black Chassis Saver brushes like glass, does not need to be sprayed. Covers 90 sq ft per quart.

That liner was just beat. They must have dumped and shoveled cement and gravel in there.

Let me know how far you can peel it.

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PS: We will run out of Monstaliner tomorrow. Batches to be produced next Wednesday. I've extended the promo until March 22nd

This is a batch of Monstaliner in production. Smoke is from the moisture scavenger used to remove any moisture from the pigment premix prior to adding the moisture cure polymers to the tank. Pretty cool.
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WOW, that is pretty cool to see.
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Wade, I think he was saying that 1 gallon will cover 61 square feet, and that he will get back to you on info for white and if it should cover the bed with just 1 gallon.
I was thinking he was figuring my bed dimension at about 61 sq ft (and that 1 Gal would cover that)... I didn't do do the math... I suck at math, I'm an IT guy...
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That, sir, is a witch's brew! Very nice

Hmmm...it sounds like I'll just use the gloss black for the frame, axle tubes, control arms, etc, and rattle can the bumper, since if I'm going to be touching it up anyway, why waste the Chassis Saver, right?

I imagine the control arms and frame and such won't generally receive enough sunlight to fade it that much, will it? I guess it depends on how UV-sensitive it really is. Would rattle-can even stick to the gloss black? What would be the point of putting a coat or two of rattle-can over the top of it rather than just rattle canning it from the beginning? At least if the rattle can chips the Chassis Saver should hold fast underneath it, I guess?

Maybe I'm just overthinking it and should use the Chassis Saver for its intended job of painting right over rust and leave it at that.
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Wade, I think he was saying that 1 gallon will cover 61 square feet, and that he will get back to you on info for white and if it should cover the bed with just 1 gallon.
No, his bed is 61 sq ft. Monsta will cover 80 sq ft per gal at our recommended thickness. You can stretch it further. Problem with white is that it won't cover as well as black so stretching further may show through to bed. But... bed is white already. I will advise further when we make some lab sample of white.
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Oh... glad to see I can't read properly (for Wade's sake).

This has to be like the 3rd or 4th time that you said you were going to bed, and continue to answer questions. Workaholic a bit?
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Oh... glad to see I can't read properly (for Wade's sake).

This has to be like the 3rd or 4th time that you said you were going to bed, and continue to answer questions. Workaholic a bit?
Goodnight!

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Hey MagnetMan, I noticed on the ford-trucks.com site that firekite mention, there was a Montaliner ad (one of the ad.doubleclick.net ads).

Edit: and now I see why... you happen to be a vendor there too.

I also see that you currently viewing this thread. So much for going to bed (although I do that too).
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Surface is hard. We messed with spongy a long time ago and it gets torn up easy..
You mentioned you are new to the Jeep community. You also said you feel the rock hard tough is a plus, and is actually a main marketing point with 'no tire rubber' in the mix. I have friends with hard sand paperish surfaces in vehicles. In my opinion hard and grippy is great for real bed liner in the bed of a pickup, but not so much for a Jeep interior.

People are in a Jeep tub interior more than cargo, so there is more casual contact with the surface. Passengers with shorts, flip flops, and tank tops are not uncommon (the more bare skin the better [see 'Who has hottest wife/gf' thread for samples]). I for one prefer a softer feel to the surface and appreciate Herculiner's rubber content. I also appreciate the sound deadening qualities of the softer material. I would rather have to buy a quart every few years for some touch up than live with a harsh interior feel every day.

I don't mean to disparage your product, good luck with it, really. I just wanted to mention this for others to consider.
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