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The colors look great and all, and I'm sure it was rocket surgery getting the chemistry right, but where is the YELLOW!?!?!?!
We gotta talk about yellow. Yellows have very poor opacity and can require extra coats. There are a few options. Is this for your tub?

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How much scuffing/sanding is recommended for a new Wrangler for the liner to stick very well. I don't want to have to do this twice.
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/mo...ite-up-901675/

Read that. Scuff enough to get through the clear and dull it. You just want to get rid of the gloss so the liner has something to bite into. Be careful not to sand too deep because you will sand right through the paint faster than you can imagine.

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Read that. Scuff enough to get through the clear and dull it. You just want to get rid of the gloss so the liner has something to bite into. Be careful not to sand too deep because you will sand right through the paint faster than you can imagine.
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How much scuffing/sanding is recommended for a new Wrangler for the liner to stick very well. I don't want to have to do this twice.
The word "through" the clear can be misleading. You don't need to sand "off" the clear. The surface needs to be scratched up significantly.

When scuffing dark color tubs, it's very easy to see when you've scuffed enough.

When your paint is very light like white it can be difficult to see when you've scuffed enough. Scuffing should generate a fine white powder as you go. If you're not making dust, you're not scuffing hard enough.

Thank you erickpl for this great photo

edit: see the back door now with difference of before and after scuffing
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Hey.... Mine is better.... I did a cleaner job Note: This was after cleaning it again with M.E.K.


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So is there a preffered grit on the sand paper or scuffing pad? I have a Black JK 2 Door.
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Sanding pads are included with the kit. They work well.

Here is a picture of my install... Notice how poorly the scuffing shows up on a lighter color?

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Hey.... Mine is better.... I did a cleaner job Note: This was after cleaning it again with M.E.K.
Cleaner yes, but remember for the person who has no idea how much to scuff or when is enough your picture does not show the direct results of scuffing.

Paul's photos below are without solvent wiping which is important to see to eliminate confusion.
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Ahhh.... Ok. Yeah, I never got pics in between. Note that the clear turns white when sanded.

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So is there a preffered grit on the sand paper or scuffing pad? I have a Black JK 2 Door.
1 very coarse scuff pad comes with the 1 gallon kit. If you need more abrasive when that wears out just use 100 grit sandpaper.

You can... go as coarse as 60 grit paper but you must be VERY careful not to cut through paint. Coarser works faster but is more risky. Black will show scuffing the best of all colors so there's no mistaking if you scuffed enough
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Ahhh.... Ok. Yeah, I never got pics in between. Note that the clear turns white when sanded.
These are really good points to make for the FAQ

I sanded a white Ford pickup bed once and I could not generate dust with anything but 60 grit. Some years, some clears are just better than others.

I would think that Chrysler probably saves clear on the insides knowing that it's covered with carpet.

Is a new clean tub with carpet ripped out as shiny as the exterior? Well that probably a bad question because the outside gets compound and wax.
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^Noted. Also, my paint was fairly clean, but not really shiny for both Jeeps. Nothing like that white panel in the back, more like the orange liner on the table.

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You guys are all awesome. I appreciate all the input and will have a huge write up when I start. Do you have an decals for supporting Monstaliner would be nice for advertisement also.
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You guys are all awesome. I appreciate all the input and will have a huge write up when I start. Do you have an decals for supporting Monstaliner would be nice for advertisement also.
Some time in May when we get the stickers done we will be mailing to everyone who has purchased kits. This should have been done long ago but the first batch we printed were garbage and I had to find the right kind of sticker and different printer.

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