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Unread 04-15-2011, 07:21 AM   #3016
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I have to say, this thread has been very interesting. I never knew people from Long Island were so generous and helpful! (I'm from Queens, but live in CO now - the scenery and the wheeling are much better here than there, but the pizza sucks here)

I read ALL of the first 100 pages, then realized I was nowhere near the end of the thread. I'm certain this question was answered somewhere in the thread, but I didn't see it where I read. My plan is to Mostaline my JK 4-dr stem to stern inside, but I'd like to do it in stages so as to minimize the breakdown and reassembly of my interior. If I start with the bed all the way in the back, then do the backseat area another weekend and finally finish with the driver and passenger seat area I only have to disassemble small portions of the Heep at one time. It also minimizes the "might as wells". If the whole interior is stripped, there are several more projects that I might as well do, too. So shut up and ask your question already, right? Will I need a total of 2 gallons to cover the interior of my 4dr JK? If I do, what is the best combination of sizes to use for my plan? I was thinking 1 full gallon and 4 qrts.

Lastly, and on a different subject, can I do something similar with the Chasis Saver? If I worked on small parts of the underside at a time, will I need a new can for each new section or does the CS remain usable in it's can once it's been mixed?

Before the questions come, realize that I have a family, kids, 80hr a week job and minimal free time even on weekends. Its just about managing my available wrenching time.

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Unread 04-15-2011, 07:38 AM   #3017
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Sorry for the barrage of probably-already-answered-questions, but I have another thought (scary words from me). Has anyone used this on the inside of the hardtop pieces? I have been looking for a way to insulate both for sound and tempurature, but I don't like the fabric headliner idea. In CO, we have jacked up weather, to say the least. Yesterday for instance, we had 2" of new snow fall overnight. Temps were right at 32 until the sun came up. So when I went to work I had a blanket of ice and snow on the roof of my Jeep. This keeps the hardtop pretty cold, but as soon as the temps started to rise, the humidity did as well. The cold roof, combined with high (for CO) humidity left a thick layer of moisture on the inside of the roof, in the cab. If I had a fabric headliner, all that moisture would be absorbed. Then bad things start to happen. Sagging headliner, mold, smells, etc. I know early on tests were planned for heat exchange, heat tolertance etc with the Mostaliner. What about moisture? I assume this will stand up just fine to the condition I described, something not uncommon well into May here. What about insulating properties? Both sound and temp? What has been discovered now that everyone has painted everything with Monstaliner?
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Unread 04-15-2011, 10:54 PM   #3018
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Too much too read in this thread, so I have a few questions before I order:

1. Whats the best way to prevent heat from coming from the floor? I saw people post on lizard skin, but I dont have the tools to spray on. Can I roll this over the sheets of heat insulation?

2. Site says no crumb rubber, does that mean this stuff rolls on smooth? I hated how rough the Herc was in my old rig.

3. 2 gallon kit for an LJ and roll bars?
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Unread 04-16-2011, 12:15 AM   #3019
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I have to say, this thread has been very interesting. I never knew people from Long Island were so generous and helpful! (I'm from Queens, but live in CO now - the scenery and the wheeling are much better here than there, but the pizza sucks here)

I read ALL of the first 100 pages, then realized I was nowhere near the end of the thread. I'm certain this question was answered somewhere in the thread, but I didn't see it where I read. My plan is to Mostaline my JK 4-dr stem to stern inside, but I'd like to do it in stages so as to minimize the breakdown and reassembly of my interior. If I start with the bed all the way in the back, then do the backseat area another weekend and finally finish with the driver and passenger seat area I only have to disassemble small portions of the Heep at one time. It also minimizes the "might as wells". If the whole interior is stripped, there are several more projects that I might as well do, too. So shut up and ask your question already, right? Will I need a total of 2 gallons to cover the interior of my 4dr JK? If I do, what is the best combination of sizes to use for my plan? I was thinking 1 full gallon and 4 qrts.

Lastly, and on a different subject, can I do something similar with the Chasis Saver? If I worked on small parts of the underside at a time, will I need a new can for each new section or does the CS remain usable in it's can once it's been mixed?

Before the questions come, realize that I have a family, kids, 80hr a week job and minimal free time even on weekends. Its just about managing my available wrenching time.
I wish I could blow off NY and come out there to live but yes I would miss the pizza here so I'm stuck <<<--- mike_breaker_5... That one's for you dude!

So what can I do to talk you out of doing it this way?
You may need 3 gallons to get the job done like this. Each time you mix the product, pour it in the roller pan, saturate some new rollers you lose material.
Not to mention that your final results may look like patchwork quilt. I'm sure you can make it work by stopping and starting strategically
at corners and hard lines but once the scuffing is done the rolling does not take that long.

If time is the problem please allow me to suggest something else:

Disassemble all but the driver seat then scuff all surfaces at your leisure.
From there, decide what day to do 1st coat.
Remove remaining seat and apply 1st coat. Next morning put seat back. Then do the same thing within a few days or in a week max to do 2nd coat.

Did I succeed in changing your mind?

Regarding Chassis Saver, just follow the directions on the tech data sheet regarding "a solvent float" where you put a little S8 reducer on top of the remaining material in the can and reclose the lid.
Chassis Saver Tech Bulletin
If you want cause I've been thinking about this, I'm going to put a discount rate up on the web shopping cart to buy 4 x 8 oz cans instead of a quart so this may help as well.
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Unread 04-16-2011, 12:22 AM   #3020
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What about moisture? I assume this will stand up just fine to the condition I described, something not uncommon well into May here. What about insulating properties? Both sound and temp? What has been discovered now that everyone has painted everything with Monstaliner?
No issues with moisture. Minimal if any insulation against cold temps. Small help with sound dampening.

I don't drive a jeep with Monstaliner in it so perhaps some customers can comment better from daily experience?
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Unread 04-16-2011, 12:32 AM   #3021
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Too much too read in this thread, so I have a few questions before I order:

1. Whats the best way to prevent heat from coming from the floor? I saw people post on lizard skin, but I dont have the tools to spray on. Can I roll this over the sheets of heat insulation?

2. Site says no crumb rubber, does that mean this stuff rolls on smooth? I hated how rough the Herc was in my old rig.

3. 2 gallon kit for an LJ and roll bars?
If the sheet insulation is it soft, flexible and/or aluminum foil faced I would not put Monstaliner over it.

Bumpy, pronounced orange peel surface, not rough or abrasive. You can see good closeups in the galleries on the site.
This is exactly what it looks like if you re-roll over the coating in 10 - 15 minutes after first putting it down. (2nd coat)



2 door Wranglers need 1 gallon for the tub. It may stretch to do the roll bars but it may not. All depends on how you apply it in the tub.
Worst case you may need extra quart

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Unread 04-16-2011, 12:32 AM   #3022
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Hey Magnetman, hope all is well with you. Just checking to see when color samples will be on the website to look at? Are we still 2-3 weeks out for orders on the colors? Thanks.
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Unread 04-16-2011, 12:49 AM   #3023
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Hey Magnetman, hope all is well with you. Just checking to see when color samples will be on the website to look at? Are we still 2-3 weeks out for orders on the colors? Thanks.
Doing good thanks! Getting excited for colors.
Definitely less than 3 weeks now. Next week we confirm and test about 6 to 8 colors.
We were bored today so we broke out the tequila and made some orange in the lab. (Bottom 2 shots were still very wet)

What color are you waiting for?

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Unread 04-16-2011, 05:39 AM   #3024
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Unread 04-16-2011, 05:58 AM   #3025
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Doing good thanks! Getting excited for colors.
Definitely less than 3 weeks now. Next week we confirm and test about 6 to 8 colors.
We were bored today so we broke out the tequila and made some orange in the lab. (Bottom 2 shots were still very wet)

What color are you waiting for?



Nice! That middle pic looks preetty close to Longhorn burnt orange. Very nice for this part of the country!
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Unread 04-16-2011, 06:06 AM   #3026
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Question... Would you apply with ~50 degree weather and raining outside? I ended up having the day off of work, and nothing to do...
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Unread 04-16-2011, 06:40 AM   #3028
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If the sheet insulation is it soft, flexible and/or aluminum foil faced I would not put Monstaliner over it.

2 door Wranglers need 1 gallon for the tub. It may stretch to do the roll bars but it may not. All depends on how you apply it in the tub.
Worst case you may need extra quart

Can you recommend anything to lay down before to keep the heat out? Its gets HOT here over the summer here in AZ, so Id rather not fight the floor heat when running the AC.

Also the LJ is 10 inches longer in the tub and I want to do the roll bars. I want to take the liner all the way up the sides up to the windows in the rear. Will the quart cover this extra area or should I just get 2 gallons to be safe?

Thanks for the quick replies!
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Unread 04-16-2011, 06:47 AM   #3029
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Can you recommend anything to lay down before to keep the heat out? Its gets HOT here over the summer here in AZ, so Id rather not fight the floor heat when running the AC.

Also the LJ is 10 inches longer in the tub and I want to do the roll bars. Will the quart cover this extra area or should I just get 2 gallons to be safe?

Thanks for the quick replies!
I know it is possible to do the entire LJ tub with 1 gallon, and you might have enough left over to do the roll bars, so I would say that 1 quart extra would definitely be enough to cover all of these areas.
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