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10-09-2009, 10:47 AM
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Location: MD
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Originally Posted by magnetman
Stop in and see me some time. (check first that I am in office)
I'm trying to find a few more vehicles to coat and photograph.
If you're in a local club or have friends with pickups or jeeps let them know.
Materials are on me. You do the work and I'll supervise.
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I may have to make that 4 hour drive from DC.....
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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
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'01 TJ Sahara. 3" BDS lift, 1" PA BL, 33x12.50x15 Nokian Vatiiva M/Ts, Durango steering box, soft 8s, RE steering stabilizer, and one LOUD effin' train horn :)
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10-09-2009, 10:48 AM
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Caveman Chemist
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amityville, NY
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Originally Posted by Yankee-Juliet
Does it come in any colors? Thinking about doing the tub and possibly the whole Jeep in Durabak (it comes in several colors).
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Colors are in development now. 3 to 5 weeks for availability
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10-09-2009, 11:06 AM
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Location: Boone, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magnetman
Colors are in development now. 3 to 5 weeks for availability
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Ok great, I'll keep an eye on your site. Thanks
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10-09-2009, 11:14 AM
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Caveman Chemist
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Location: Amityville, NY
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What color you considering?
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10-09-2009, 01:39 PM
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Location: Boone, NC
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A tan or sand color.
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"Dog-gone it Roy-Jean, how many times do I have to explain it to ya, when I tell ya to put a rock under the wheel, I MEAN A ROCK!!" ~ C.W. McCall
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10-09-2009, 02:37 PM
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Location: New Jersey, NJ
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If you want to do a test jeep im about 45mins away and for free supplies I'd be happy to help  . Let me know what weekend is good and I'll make a trip up there. You can take all the pictures you want.
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10-09-2009, 07:05 PM
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Caveman Chemist
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amityville, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wranglerboy07
If you want to do a test jeep im about 45mins away and for free supplies I'd be happy to help  . Let me know what weekend is good and I'll make a trip up there. You can take all the pictures you want.
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wranglerboy07, I appreciate the offer but you really can't drive to Long Isl, bed liner your jeep and then drive home the same day. I really need some local vehicles that can be left in our warehouse for a few days.
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10-09-2009, 09:21 PM
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Location: Virginia
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work on plastic fender flares?
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10-09-2009, 10:01 PM
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Caveman Chemist
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amityville, NY
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Coating Plastic Fender Flares
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Originally Posted by DryBones
work on plastic fender flares?
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Yes but you must follow specific procedures. See below...
Procedures for Coating Jeep Plastic Fender Flares and Similar Plastic Surfaces
Caution: Use no solvents on plastic prior to surface prep and coating of fender flares and similar plastic surfaces. Lacquer thinner, acetone, MEK will all penetrate plastic and cause adhesion failures of any coatings applied to plastic.
1) Clean plastic using Sprayway #050 Glass Cleaner. Allow surfaces to dry overnight.
Sprayway, Inc. - Products
2) Use Bulldog Adhesion Promoter on plastic to be coated. Follow directions on drying time and top coating.
DO NOT use Bulldog Abrasive Cleaner as directions mention. Sprayway cleaner is sufficient.
Bulldog
3) Follow with installation of Monstaliner within time frame and recoat window detailed in Bulldog directions.
Note: When tackling a fender flare project, you will want to mix small amounts of Monstaliner with catalyst. Speak to me directly before ordering any product and I'll help set you up with tools required and suggestions for doing job correctly.
Regards
magnetman
Monstaliner do-it-yourself roll-on truck bed liner
Magnet Paints Manufacturers High Performance Specialty Coatings
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10-16-2009, 02:29 PM
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I'll admit, I'm intrigued and I like the idea of not having to spray it in, but I'm curious how you justify double the price of Raptor? I've heard good things about it and it comes with a spray gun, I know yours has the prep stuff too, but I'd like to be sold on it  .
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10-16-2009, 10:14 PM
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Caveman Chemist
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amityville, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hyperboarder
I'll admit, I'm intrigued and I like the idea of not having to spray it in, but I'm curious how you justify double the price of Raptor? I've heard good things about it and it comes with a spray gun, I know yours has the prep stuff too, but I'd like to be sold on it  .
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Good question on price. I did some research to verify some facts.
First of all, Monstaliner is a full 2 gallon kit.
Raptor includes only 1.06 gallon of sprayable product in their kit (4 x 3/4 liters of coating (0.7928 gal) + 1 liter of catalyst (0.2642 gal) for a total of 1.057 gallons)
The kit is specified to cover 125 square feet. Pricing I see around the web ranges from just below $100 to $130+
We designed Monstaliner to go down much heavier and to provide 4 or 5 times the dry film thickness of other "paint on" liners (as we refer to Raptor type products).
There is also some very unique chemistry involved with Monstaliner which allows extremely high film thickness without bubbling or blistering.
You can not achieve this kind of thickness with other urethane coatings.
Monstaliner is closer to thin mayonaise or peanut butter and it contains much less solvent than paint sprayable products.
I've been asked by others to do a more detailed technical analisys of Raptor so we are going to do this and also include a few other competing products.
Please feel free to ask more questions.
Regards
magnetman
Last edited by magnetman; 10-16-2009 at 10:15 PM..
Reason: correction
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10-17-2009, 06:56 AM
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Location: Gurnee, IL
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I really like the look of this stuff, In the future I may remove my herculiner and use this stuff.
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10-17-2009, 07:52 AM
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Location: Central PA
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Do you sell a kit that's less than 2 gallons? You mentioned painting plastic flares.. a lot of people would use it to paint bumpers and rockers and trim and stuff too. A kit with a smaller roller, less liner, and a cheaper price would probably sell decent as a "trim kit" or something.
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10-17-2009, 02:57 PM
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Caveman Chemist
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Amityville, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Longhorn
Do you sell a kit that's less than 2 gallons? You mentioned painting plastic flares.. a lot of people would use it to paint bumpers and rockers and trim and stuff too. A kit with a smaller roller, less liner, and a cheaper price would probably sell decent as a "trim kit" or something.
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We do sell single gallons with the catalyst and the rollers are also sold separately but I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF THE "TRIM KIT". 
Do I have to pay you royalties if this works out??
Do you think that we need to sell it in QUARTS? or is that too little for a small job.
I really need to fig out how much liquid is required for bumpers, rockers and other small trim areas as you say.
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10-17-2009, 04:06 PM
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Location: Central PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magnetman
We do sell single gallons with the catalyst and the rollers are also sold separately but I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF THE "TRIM KIT". 
Do I have to pay you royalties if this works out??
Do you think that we need to sell it in QUARTS? or is that too little for a small job.
I really need to fig out how much liquid is required for bumpers, rockers and other small trim areas as you say.
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You can give me as much money/free stuff as you'd like!
Otherwise.. the suggestion is on the house.
Good luck with the 4x4 community!
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