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post #271 of 13255 Old 02-10-2010, 06:59 PM
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Sorry I missed this.. Good questions

FYI and to all who follow this thread, THE KILLER PROMO WILL BE REVEALED ON THURSDAY!

Sandblasting would be the right thing to do if you have access to a rig. I'd recommend that you use Chassis Saver silver if you don't mind the color vs black or we now have gray as well.

CS can be applied directly over tight rust so you really don't need to remove it all. Get rid of the crusty and flaking material so there's nothing loose anymore. Do not take surfaces to bare shiny metal with a wire wheel or you can create adhesion problems. CS likes rough surfaces. Then just brush or spray a minimum of 2 coats everywhere. 3 coats is best. Thin coats. Don't try to go heavy thinking you'll use less coats. CS can form bubbles if lopped on too thick. The bubbles are where moisture will work it's way back to the metal and start rusting again.

On rockers, body panels, etc... Just wire brush to remove loose rust and brush 3 thin coats on all rusty areas. Try to get some coating inside around any edges of rust holes. You can then paint over the CS if desired.

And yes, 1 gallon will be more than enough. If you want, because CS can harden in the big can, I'll give you 4 qts for 1 gallon price + free shipping

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Great info, thanks. I was kind of leaning towards the silver anyhow. I'll wait until Thursday for the "killer promo" but I will definitely order a gallons worth from you. The quart cans would be a great help. Thanks again.


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What about those of us in Canada?
You won't be left out.

I need some help though...

When you purchase something online lets say and pay by credit card for an item that ships by UPS ground going from the USA to Canada, do you get hit with additional taxes, duties, etc in addition to what you have already paid?
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You won't be left out.

I need some help though...

When you purchase something online lets say and pay by credit card for an item that ships by UPS ground going from the USA to Canada, do you get hit with additional taxes, duties, etc in addition to what you have already paid?
Yes. UPS (United Parcel Service), has some of the highest clearance rates in the industry. Most people, including myself, prefer having items shipped via USPS (United States Postal Service). Yes, it's a little slower, but the price makes it more then attractive. Only thing, please insure the shipments. I don't mind paying for that, personally. The only "duty" I, here in Canada, would have to pay is our Federal Tax, and a small processing fee from Canada Post, nee USPS.

If you are going to extend something to us up here, in the "Northern US", aka Canada (Please, come take us over...I beg you!!!!), I will HAVE to buy this. I'll place an order tomorrow, if that's when the deal will be announced.

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Yes. UPS (United Parcel Service), has some of the highest clearance rates in the industry. Most people, including myself, prefer having items shipped via USPS (United States Postal Service). Yes, it's a little slower, but the price makes it more then attractive. Only thing, please insure the shipments. I don't mind paying for that, personally. The only "duty" I, here in Canada, would have to pay is our Federal Tax, and a small processing fee from Canada Post, nee USPS.

If you are going to extend something to us up here, in the "Northern US", aka Canada (Please, come take us over...I beg you!!!!), I will HAVE to buy this. I'll place an order tomorrow, if that's when the deal will be announced.
I understand, Give me your postal code I want to check a few things.
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Technically yes, but in doing so you are opening up your company to fraud. You'll attract attention from your government, and mine that you are not going to like.

Shipping via common carrier would certainly be the cheapest. Okay, if your product is less then $100 then perhaps UPS won't be HORRIBLE. If it comes down to getting the product or not; choose whatever service is going to convince you to sell to us here in the Frozen North.
Yes I agree and we don't need trouble. I will check USPS rates and get back to you.

What ever happened to that "Free Trade" thing?
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I have shipped things to our neighbors to the north(ebay) and they always request USPS and I think USPS actually gave the best rates over all very competitive.
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Sounds good. I will be looking forward to seeing some samples of the product.
Here's some Monstaliner spray photos. Walcom Shutz gun at 80 to 100 psi (really good tip control)








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Hmm...what about coverage? I'm kind of curious as to the practical differences between spraying and rolling/brushing.
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Sandblasting would be the right thing to do if you have access to a rig. I'd recommend that you use Chassis Saver silver if you don't mind the color vs black or we now have gray as well.
I meant to ask why you advise using the silver or gray over the black. I was kind of leaning towards the silver anyhow but am curious as to why you recommend it over the black.

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Rolling vs Spraying Monstaliner

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Hmm...what about coverage? I'm kind of curious as to the practical differences between spraying and rolling/brushing.
OK, I will argue both sides:

ROLLING
The main advantage to rolling is for those who do not have a compressor and there is no need to purchase an undercoating gun.

With rolling, the entire vehicle does not need to be masked off. There is some roller spatter but not significant.
Anything that gets on the vehicles paint can be wiped clean with a small amount of MEK or Acetone on a clean rag and then the areas should be re-waxed later.

Rolling probably uses a little more material (lower coverage) and the final film thickness will be greater than spraying.

Rolling wastes what the foam rollers have absorbed when you toss them away and what is left in the roller pan.
I can't see a roller holding more than 50 to 75 grams of liquid that will not be utilized.
The pan will likely hold the same unless you leave unused material and let it spoil. So in the scheme of things you will
waste about 6 to 7 ounces (5.5%) of coating per gallon by rolling. (Next time I roll I will weigh a roller + pan dry and wet to confirm figures)

SPRAYING
Masking more of the vehicle than is needed for rolling.

Lower film thickness yielding greater coverage which will be a negative from a durability point of view.

A little more uniform final results.

In my opinion, equal or greater waste but this needs to be confirmed. Material will cling to the insides of whatever container holds the material for spraying plus some amount of overspray.
Since a shutz gun really does not atomize like a traditional paint spray gun you will not have clouds of overspray. A shutz gun works like spitting mayonnaise out of a drinking straw.

COVERAGE
Theoretical coverage which is based on math only (volume solids of the coating formula divided by application film thickness) is 80 sq ft per gallon @ 14 mils dry.
This is all subject to widely varying results depending on the method of application and the user.

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I meant to ask why you advise using the silver or gray over the black. I was kind of leaning towards the silver anyhow but am curious as to why you recommend it over the black.
We like silver best from a corrosion prevention standpoint and also silver seems to have better adhesion direct to surfaces that are not ideal.

Silver is filled with almost 2 pounds of flake aluminum which creates an great barrier against moisture permeation. The silver formula is very similar to coatings used for bridge rehab.

It also looks cool alone and can be painted over with any industrial or automotive colored enamel.
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