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Unread 11-09-2010, 04:02 PM   #2251
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Are your fenders new bare metal?
Yup! Don't forget the two-part primer!!!

And if you need to know exactly what I used, I can check my cans later. But I think I already posted up the exact names of the products in an earlier post.

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Unread 11-09-2010, 04:48 PM   #2252
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Are your fenders new bare metal?
Yes, they currently are.

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Yup! Don't forget the two-part primer!!!

And if you need to know exactly what I used, I can check my cans later. But I think I already posted up the exact names of the products in an earlier post.
That would be great info to have if you get the chance.
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Unread 11-09-2010, 05:02 PM   #2253
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magnetman any updates on color yet?
I'm in the mad scientist lab as I type.
Trying to get this done this week I hope.
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Unread 11-09-2010, 05:04 PM   #2254
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Just ordered! Now its time to finish getting the Jeep ready!
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Unread 11-10-2010, 09:20 AM   #2255
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My UPS guy finally showed up yesterday. Got the Halloween Sale. In the middle of an engine swap now, and the warm weather may stick around long enough for my day off Friday to get the engine bay protected. Can't wait.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 09:49 AM   #2256
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I'm in the mad scientist lab as I type.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 12:24 PM   #2257
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Quick question. Don't really have the funds right before Christmas to purchase the Monstaliner Kit, so can I go ahead and put down some Por15 now then wait until spring to put down the Monsta? Or for that matter can I put down the Duplicolor cheapo bedliner now then Monsta in spring? Mainly just want to do it in my front floor pans, because they look terrible.

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Unread 11-10-2010, 01:44 PM   #2258
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Quick question. Don't really have the funds right before Christmas to purchase the Monstaliner Kit, so can I go ahead and put down some Por15 now then wait until spring to put down the Monsta? Or for that matter can I put down the Duplicolor cheapo bedliner now then Monsta in spring? Mainly just want to do it in my front floor pans, because they look terrible.

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I'd get the chassis saver personally and pass on the bedliner. It'll just mean more work for you later before you prep for that Monsta.

And if you HAD to just lay down the Chassis saver/Por15, I don't really see a problem with that.( Just me)
The chassis saver is some seriously stout stuff. I'm guessing you'd just have to clean it and scuff it like normal before you plan on doing the liner.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 02:56 PM   #2259
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Yes, they currently are.

That would be great info to have if you get the chance.
Go to O'Reillys and ask for quart size cans of Nason Ful-Poxy Epoxy Metal Primer 491-16 and Nason Catalyst 483-19. Mix them at a 1:1 ratio. I just used mason jars. Those quart size cans will go a long way. I did my whole fender project plus my experiments and I think I used less than 25%.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 03:15 PM   #2260
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I'd get the chassis saver personally and pass on the bedliner. It'll just mean more work for you later before you prep for that Monsta.

And if you HAD to just lay down the Chassis saver/Por15, I don't really see a problem with that.( Just me)
The chassis saver is some seriously stout stuff. I'm guessing you'd just have to clean it and scuff it like normal before you plan on doing the liner.
a very big X2 here.

i agree with tinga. i coated my entire frame from engine back, underside, and inside of my tub with one quart of chassis saver sprayed on! it is tough and monstaliner is designed to be painted over it anyway. chassis saver is cheaper and easier to use than por, to me it would be the clear choice.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 05:37 PM   #2261
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a very big X2 here.

i agree with tinga. i coated my entire frame from engine back, underside, and inside of my tub with one quart of chassis saver sprayed on! it is tough and monstaliner is designed to be painted over it anyway. chassis saver is cheaper and easier to use than por, to me it would be the clear choice.
X 3!

If it were me, I would completely hang tight for the time being and save until I had enough. If you put some el-cheapo bed liner in now, it will be 2-3 times more work. Why go out and buy POR-15 when in the event you follow through with MONSTALINER, you will be getting a superior product (from what I have gathered through 150 pgs of this thread and other threads in their entirety) for free. That "X" amount of dollars (POR-15 is pretty expensive) you spent on POR-15 has essentially been wasted.

Again, I would just be patient and wait until you get enough saved. That way the money is well spent and not wasted, thus allowing more money to be allocated to other mods! The time it takes to save the money for the MONSTALINER will not be enough to make a difference in whether or not your floor pans fall through (relatively speaking of course).

I know things get tight around the holidays but you can make that work to your advantage. I typically have an idea of how much I am going to spend on each person (various amounts depending on who it is) and I am sure I am not the only one. If you are one of those people, then cut the amount of money for each person by $5-$10 or however you would like. It starts to add up pretty quick if you have several people to buy gifts for! After that, take any money or visa gift cards you get and any money you have saved up for the liner and buy the liner for a xmas gift from you to you!

There's nothing wrong with being a little selfish. Especially if your like me and tend to get dress shirts and ties for xmas every year! Nothing like opening the box and thinking "Wow! I have something else to wear to work! Awesome!" However, I am very grateful for the shirts and ties I get...but there is always room for improvement!
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OK I have a question...I am going to be getting a nearly rust free YJ frame sandblasted early next week. Would chassis saver be able to be applied to the bare frame or do I need to Prime / prep the frame? If so what should I use? I was looking at other types of coatings but this sounds real good.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 09:16 PM   #2263
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I'm pretty sure Chassis saver can be applied over bare metal. Don't quote me though :P, I haven't read the directions in a while but I remember I sanded my floorboards down, MEK'd them, and applied the chassis saver on bare metal.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 10:29 PM   #2264
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OK I have a question...I am going to be getting a nearly rust free YJ frame sandblasted early next week. Would chassis saver be able to be applied to the bare frame or do I need to Prime / prep the frame? If so what should I use? I was looking at other types of coatings but this sounds real good.
Chassis Saver must have a rough surface to stick to. So the choices to create the roughness are:

1) Tightly adhearing rust that has been wire brushed and/or scraped well to remove all loose material.

2) Mechanical roughening (by hand or power tool) to create a well scratched bare metal surface. 60 to 80 grit aluminum oxide
sandpaper works best here. Note: Wire wheel brushing does not roughen metal. You must scratch the surface well with an abrasive material.

3) Sandblasting to a medium/coarse profile using industrial grade angular blast media.
NO walnut shells, NO glass beads, NO media blasting of any kind.

In a situation where you can't roughen a smooth metal surface, 2 part automotive epoxy primer is the best choice.
Epoxy primer does not need sanding before applying Chassis Saver but you must follow the manufacturers directions for the recoat window.
Most epoxy primers can be recoated as soon as they are fingernail hard. If left too long, topcoat adhesion could be compromised.
48 hours max is likely the right thing but do read the directions since each product varies.

If ever you have previous paint on isolated spots when you are coating with Chassis Saver you can coat over them.
Just scuff sand well to remove all remaining gloss of the old coating.

The only other thing that can mess up a Chassis Saver project is grease or oils on the surface. A good commercial water base
degreaser can be used (Simple Green or Zep). Allow all surfaces to dry thoroughly before coating.

And lastly, Never use Lacquer Thinner to wipe surfaces prior to coating with Chassis Saver. Acetone, MEK or our S8 Reducer works well.
Lacquer thinners are blends of solvents and typically contain high levels of moisture. I have seen Lac thinner create all
kinds of wierd problems with Chassis Saver so avoid it like the plague.

Also if spraying Chassis Saver and your spray equipment has been previously been cleaned with Lacquer thinner, you must flush
the system well with another solvent before loading it up with Chassis Saver. Same solvents apply as above.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 10:36 PM   #2265
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Go to O'Reillys and ask for quart size cans of Nason Ful-Poxy Epoxy Metal Primer 491-16 and Nason Catalyst 483-19. Mix them at a 1:1 ratio. I just used mason jars. Those quart size cans will go a long way. I did my whole fender project plus my experiments and I think I used less than 25%.
What did those 2 quarts cost you?
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