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Unread 06-03-2010, 10:14 AM   #1576
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OKay now hit me with the order on this. Should I:
1. Scuff it all up
2. Use M.E.K.
3. Apply the Chassis saver (to make sure if I missed any rust, the rust will be neutralized)
4. Prime it
5. Then M.E.K. it again?

Also I heard that not only should I prime it, but I should also paint over what I primed as well...


I appreciate all the help. I can't wait to start working on this tonight..

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Unread 06-03-2010, 10:18 AM   #1577
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NO... Don't prime over the chassis saver.

Try this order,

1. Scuff
2. 2-3 coats of chassis saver
3. First coat of Monstaliner within 24 hours (if not scuff with 120 grit)

If you prime, you need to paint because the Monstaliner can possibly eat through the primer.
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Unread 06-03-2010, 10:31 AM   #1578
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When do I M.E.K. bro??? I don't need to be putting the chassis saver over the whole tub. I assumed just the areas where I took off rust and tore off the paint..
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Unread 06-03-2010, 10:47 AM   #1579
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MEK after you scuff but before you prime

MEK is to get rid of dirt and oil so that the primer/chasis saver will stick.

So not ALL of your tub will be chassis saver..correct? Just the areas that you had rust previously?

1. Scuff
2. MEK
3. Prime
4. Chassis Saver
5. Monstaliner ( If needed)
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Unread 06-03-2010, 11:30 AM   #1580
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Unread 06-03-2010, 11:56 AM   #1581
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When do I M.E.K. bro??? I don't need to be putting the chassis saver over the whole tub. I assumed just the areas where I took off rust and tore off the paint..
I am sorry, the MEK is for the cleaning after scuffing. It will take up all of the sanding and remove any wax or oils. If you tub is dirty, a quick clean with something like simple green, then a wipe up with MEK before sanding will also make it easier to sand.

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MEK after you scuff but before you prime

MEK is to get rid of dirt and oil so that the primer/chasis saver will stick.

So not ALL of your tub will be chassis saver..correct? Just the areas that you had rust previously?

1. Scuff
2. MEK
3. Prime
4. Chassis Saver
5. Monstaliner ( If needed)
Why should he be priming? The chassis saver will provide a better base than primer, and that leaves it susceptible to peeling if it eats through the primer.
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Unread 06-03-2010, 01:30 PM   #1582
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Oh.. i was under the impression that chassis saver cannot be applied to bare metal. Or was I thinking the liner??
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Unread 06-03-2010, 01:31 PM   #1583
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Oh.. i was under the impression that chassis saver cannot be applied to bare metal. Or was I thinking the liner??
The liner can't. I was reading through the technical info the other day.
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Unread 06-03-2010, 02:57 PM   #1584
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The liner can't. I was reading through the technical info the other day.
Nice call LuckRider. That's why we keep you around, lol.
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Unread 06-03-2010, 03:19 PM   #1585
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No but you need to be very thorough in roughing it up. Much rougher is better than only a little rough. I'm shipping someone else an alternate bare metal primer that does not need a much scuffing to stick to bare metal. Let me know when you get bumpers if you are interested.
Will do. If it keeps me from having to recoat the bumpers down the road, I'd definitely be interested.
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Unread 06-04-2010, 06:12 AM   #1586
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Quick question, will the bed liner self adhere to itself? Been a few days since I applied it and am now seeing a few spots which aren't fully covered, nothing major just a few small spots. I still need to coat my flares and wanted to touch up those spots. Curious if I could just apply the liner over the existing liner w/o any prep?
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Unread 06-04-2010, 06:48 AM   #1587
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I applied another coat a day after applying all my liner and it held it just fine.

The only spot I have is on my door jamb where the liner came off WITH THE PAINT ATTACHED. Root cause: I didn't wipe down the door jamb enough to get some paint that came off when I had to use a straight edge to get some sticky tape from the plastic door jamb protectors. It held down well - until I applied the liner. If I had done a better wipe job there, it would NOT have come off. But everywhere else on my TJ that was lined the next day (a GOOD 28 hours later), everything is SOLID.
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Unread 06-04-2010, 06:52 AM   #1588
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Quick question, will the bed liner self adhere to itself? Been a few days since I applied it and am now seeing a few spots which aren't fully covered, nothing major just a few small spots. I still need to coat my flares and wanted to touch up those spots. Curious if I could just apply the liner over the existing liner w/o any prep?
It should stick fine within a few days. Just make sure it's clean first. You could lightly rub the spot with scuff pad or fine paper just for peace of mind.
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Unread 06-07-2010, 12:41 AM   #1589
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You will need a shutz gun (undercoating gun) to spray it. You are in Colorado, not California, so you should be able to find MEK. Get the MEK, and use about 5% MEK 95% liner (I believe that works out to about 8 ounces of MEK). 2 Coats are sufficient for the interior of a Jeep, but isnce you are spraying, you could probably do 3. As for heat from the trans tunnel, I have a 42rle (4-speed auto), and it is a hot tranny. I had no issues with heat.

There is sufficient amount of grip that you won't be sliding around. Why are you trying to match Herculiner gray?
I am now currently in CA, and thus MEK is apparently not available.

Ive never rode in a Jeep with an 42rle, but my aw4 gets very hot (seen it melt a camera in a friends Jeep who had only Herc and no carpet) and was hoping Monstaliner was better at reducing interior heat than the Herc is. Hot tranny and hot exhaust= unhappy and hot Starboard M.

I would like to get as close to the Herculiner color as possible because I already have it put down in the Jeep. But I have done extensive body work and need to cover up my little imperfections and Im also tired of the Herc. But, I would rather not spray the entire inside again, just half of it, and I was hoping the colors would be fairly similar.

Side note: Anyone know how to completely strip Herculiner off of metal?
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Unread 06-07-2010, 07:08 AM   #1590
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I am now currently in CA, and thus MEK is apparently not available.

Ive never rode in a Jeep with an 42rle, but my aw4 gets very hot (seen it melt a camera in a friends Jeep who had only Herc and no carpet) and was hoping Monstaliner was better at reducing interior heat than the Herc is. Hot tranny and hot exhaust= unhappy and hot Starboard M.

I would like to get as close to the Herculiner color as possible because I already have it put down in the Jeep. But I have done extensive body work and need to cover up my little imperfections and Im also tired of the Herc. But, I would rather not spray the entire inside again, just half of it, and I was hoping the colors would be fairly similar.

Side note: Anyone know how to completely strip Herculiner off of metal?
You can use acetone in place of MEK. The problem is that herc will fade unless you added their component to protect the color. So, if you put monsta on with herc, eventually they won't match because monstaliner won't fade. Luckrider or magnet man can correct me if I am wrong here, but I believe you can put monstaliner over top of herc.
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