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post #1486 of 13188 Old 05-15-2010, 07:47 PM
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I believe that is the stuff that AlTheKiller used to remove bed liner from his tube fenders.


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I hear you. What are you going to do when you line the tub, use Acetone?

MagnetMan, this might be a good time to look into MEK alternatives for those crazy Californians.
Acetone is the only substitute you will be able to find in California. It has nothing to do with OSHA. These are EPA VOC regulations.

Use acetone to thin for spray and to clean surfaces after scuff sanding.
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How do you have a phosphate free TSP? The name TSP stands for Tri Sodium Phosphate isn't it?
Real TSP will not remove paint. It is only a cleaner. There is what's called Substitute TSP which has no phosphates. I've tried it and it sucks.

Home Depot and Lowes in NY no longer sell real TSP but you can still find it in many other states.
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Real TSP will not remove paint. It is only a cleaner. There is what's called Substitute TSP which has no phosphates. I've tried it and it sucks.

Home Depot and Lowes in NY no longer sell real TSP but you can still find it in many other states.
Seriously? I have seen the Klean Strip brand TSP at both stores, and it makes not mention on the front that it is Phosphate free.

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I know they have this industrial type of gell that is super good at removing stuff but I don't believe you can buy it for personal use it has to be discarded all bio chemical like and what not but my friend uses it in his auto body class and it works wonders....Too bad he can't sneak me some haha I think this stripper will work alright I hope....
The good old style paint removers were made from Methylene Chloride which is a chlorinated solvent and "the" active ingredient in these products. Can you not still get this in California?
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Seriously? I have seen the Klean Strip brand TSP at both stores, and it makes not mention on the front that it is Phosphate free.

*Hits up google.
It may be a regional thing like Metro New York which you are outside of. I went to Home Depot specifically looking a few weeks ago and they only had the substitute stuff.
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The good old style paint removers were made from Methylene Chloride which is a chlorinated solvent and "the" active ingredient in these products. Can you not still get this in California?
I don't know...I know my friend said the stuff they use is really gnarely stuff. He said you can watch it bubble up all sorts of junk and it does it quick and its super effective....He said it burns like hell if you get it on you so it has to be a descent product but I think you have to have a liscense or whatever though to either buy it or handle it
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Are you talking about Naval Jelly?
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I don't know...I know my friend said the stuff they use is really gnarely stuff. He said you can watch it bubble up all sorts of junk and it does it quick and its super effective....He said it burns like hell if you get it on you so it has to be a descent product but I think you have to have a liscense or whatever though to either buy it or handle it
That sounds like Methylene chloride remover. I've never heard of any liscence needed for that stuff but nothing that happens in California would surprise me. You can get it in any paint store here and any other state as far as I know.
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Are you talking about Naval Jelly?
Naval jelly would not do what he describes regarding bubbling up of paint. It will burn your skin some. Naval jelly is thickened phosphoric acid and it's used on rust. Does not remove paint.
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Does anybody know if you can still buy MEK in Maryland? I just tried to Google it, but didn't really see anything.

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Does anybody know if you can still buy MEK in Maryland? I just tried to Google it, but didn't really see anything.
You should be able to get it in MD
Try Home Depot web site
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You should be able to get it in MD
Try Home Depot web site
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Please forgive me if this information is in this thread, but I look at the first 20 pages and the last 5 pages and didnt find anything. Also couldnt find any info on the site either.

When spraying, what PSI do you recommend?
What gun do you suggest we use, and are there any specific tips we would need for the bedliner?
What is the paint to thinner ratio you suggest with Acetone(California)?
How many coats should one do for the interior of a Jeep?
From the pictures this stuff almost looks slick. Do shoes and such grip to it, or will it be like walking on ice?
How does this stuff handle the heat of the tranny tunnel, both from issues with the product and cutting down on the heat?
Does the gray match the Herculiner gray, or close to it?


Can you either post or PM me a price for a one gallon gray coating only?

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You will need a shutz gun (undercoating gun) to spray it. You are in Colorado, not California, so you should be able to find MEK. Get the MEK, and use about 5% MEK 95% liner (I believe that works out to about 8 ounces of MEK). 2 Coats are sufficient for the interior of a Jeep, but isnce you are spraying, you could probably do 3. As for heat from the trans tunnel, I have a 42rle (4-speed auto), and it is a hot tranny. I had no issues with heat.

There is sufficient amount of grip that you won't be sliding around. Why are you trying to match Herculiner gray?

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