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Unread 04-07-2010, 10:40 AM   #76
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I have eight Tuffy products in and on my Jeep and I agree - they are very well-designed and well-built. The people over at Tuffy are really nice but my only complaint is the key/matching lock issue.

I had to order 7 additional sets of locks and keys to have them keyed alike. Then I had to sell the brand new lock & key sets that I didn't need. It's a waste of time and money. There has to be a better way. I feel like if I'm spending all that coin on their products, I shouldn't have to buy 7 additional sets of locks so they all match and have to deal with spare locks and keys. They should sell the boxes without locks and sell the locks separately. That way, if we order multiple products, we can buy however many matching lock sets. And if we buy other products later, we can still order key/lock sets to match.
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First off, thanks for being such a supportive customer. Eight Tuffy products on one Jeep is awesome!!

Funny you should bring up the matching lock conundrum because we are currently relooking at that. It is really difficult to sell the products without locks and then have the customer buy locks because our dealer base has resisted this as it causes extra difficulty in their operations. Over the years we have tried different variations to make keying products alike easier. Our current system of having matching locks available for purchase is a step ahead of most of our competitors but admittedly still not ideal. We are probably going to go to a system where matching locksets can be purchased for install by the customer or we will actually change out the lockset at the factory for a nominal charge. This will prevent the customer from ending up with extra locks that they have no use for. Thanks for your comments.

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Unread 04-07-2010, 11:18 AM   #77
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CopperCJ7,
First off, thanks for being such a supportive customer. Eight Tuffy products on one Jeep is awesome!!
I love your products. I have the trunk, center console, glove box, (2) wheel well speaker boxes, (2) door locks and overhead console (yet to be installed) in/on my CJ.

About the keys/lock sets, maybe you could consider a buy-back program so that we're not stuck with spare sets.
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Unread 04-07-2010, 02:20 PM   #78
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All of the Tuffy products are designed and manufactured at our facility in Cortez, Colorado USA.
Now there is something I can support! Bestop started in the US and continues to have facilities here, but also outsources some manufacturing to Mexico and China.

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Unread 04-07-2010, 02:31 PM   #79
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Now there is something I can support! Bestop started in the US and continues to have facilities here, but also outsources some manufacturing to Mexico and China.

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Thanks!! Sometimes it is hard to compete with foreign made products on price but Tuffy continues to make all of our products in the USA because we feel it is the best way to assure the quality and security standards that we demand.
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Unread 04-07-2010, 05:40 PM   #80
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"Made in the USA" seems to be almost forgotten. good to keep things in house
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Unread 04-07-2010, 07:45 PM   #81
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CopperCJ7,
First off, thanks for being such a supportive customer. Eight Tuffy products on one Jeep is awesome!!

Funny you should bring up the matching lock conundrum because we are currently relooking at that. It is really difficult to sell the products without locks and then have the customer buy locks because our dealer base has resisted this as it causes extra difficulty in their operations. Over the years we have tried different variations to make keying products alike easier. Our current system of having matching locks available for purchase is a step ahead of most of our competitors but admittedly still not ideal. We are probably going to go to a system where matching locksets can be purchased for install by the customer or we will actually change out the lockset at the factory for a nominal charge. This will prevent the customer from ending up with extra locks that they have no use for. Thanks for your comments.
Personally... I have no problems with your current system. You can't expect vendors to be able to key the locks to match, and in my experience you guys ship out the matching locks quickly, and for a VERY reasonable price in my opinion. Even if other vendors made key matched locks available, I'd expect them to charge much more than you do.

In my case, I bought the wheel-well side boxes first. Then I just ordered matching locks for the cargo drawer and glove-box when I added those.
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Unread 04-14-2010, 07:31 PM   #82
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Will have to check dimensions and see if this one will work. Other models are on the way for the TJ and some trucks so will have to measure up an XJ.
Any word on when this will be available for a TJ?
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Unread 04-14-2010, 10:55 PM   #83
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Any word on when this will be available for a TJ?
No exact date yet, but when I left for Overland Expo there was a cardboard model on the product designers desk. Should be soon!
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Unread 04-14-2010, 11:24 PM   #84
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any news on a YJ box?
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Unread 04-15-2010, 12:25 AM   #85
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can we fit one under an XJ seat?
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Unread 04-15-2010, 03:42 PM   #86
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Which would be more secure for phone, wallet, ipod, and sunglasses, this under seat drawer or a tuffy glovebox?
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Unread 04-15-2010, 05:13 PM   #87
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Check out the last few pictures on my install: X-caiver's Blog: Tuffy under-seat JK security drawer

This drawer is pretty much not visible. If someone doesn't know something is there, they are less likely to try and steal it
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Unread 04-21-2010, 01:21 AM   #88
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Which would be more secure for phone, wallet, ipod, and sunglasses, this under seat drawer or a tuffy glovebox?
I can answer that!
I have a good friend that has the tuffy console & glove box. His jeep was vandalized recently, and the glove box did get opened, but the console stayed secure. (good thing, that's where his gun was) There's no fault in the tuffy design of the glove box vault, it's the design of the TJ dash that makes it easy to open for a determined theif. They ripped off the speaker grille, and used the tire iron under the seat to pry it open from behind. We repaired it, and there's now a 1/4" peice of steel plate stopping this from ever happening again.

:BTW: The cops caught the theif, and he toted a good *** beating for the damages done to my buddy's jeep. (he's a cop too)
This guy busted up the dash getting th eglove box open, ripped the CD player out, cut the seats, cut the top, busted the windshield, and slashed all 5 tires. This was all cause he got mad because he couldn't get the console open.

Great products guys, and I'm waiting on that drawer for a TJ!
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Unread 04-21-2010, 01:49 AM   #89
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will have to have our design guys take a look at that. I have a 2000 WJ and don't remember there being much room under the rear seat but take a look.
you have a for sure buyer here if you can get one to fit under the WJ rear seat. anything to keep my .40 safe.
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Unread 04-21-2010, 05:52 AM   #90
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