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Unread 01-01-2014, 10:50 AM   #1
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4 cyl. or 6 cyl. ?

Getting ready to buy next weekend. I test drove a 4 and it seemed adequate in town, never made it to the highway. Anybody get a 4 cylinder and wish they had the 6. Undecided on which to get.

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Unread 01-01-2014, 12:19 PM   #2
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Check here maybe: 4 cylinder engine?
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Unread 01-01-2014, 02:50 PM   #3
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Thanks...kind of what I figured, a mixed bag. Not many complaints on the 4 cylinder though!
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Unread 01-01-2014, 02:56 PM   #4
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I say get the 6. I even wish it was making more tq (like 250 would have been good).
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Unread 01-01-2014, 03:12 PM   #5
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Thanks...kind of what I figured, a mixed bag. Not many complaints on the 4 cylinder though!
That's what I gathered from the discussion too. I'm a 'better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it' type of guy, but was happy to hear the guys running the 4cyl engine say it can get the job done.
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Unread 01-01-2014, 04:05 PM   #6
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I agree....6 cylinder it is. I bought a 4 cylinder Wrangler when the new design came out (97?)since the 6's weren't out yet and regretted it.
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Unread 01-01-2014, 04:49 PM   #7
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If you don't need the greater 4500lbs towing capacity of the V6, you aren't an aggressive driver, and MPG is a concern get the 4 cyl. If you need that extra power for towing( or off roading )or you have a heavy foot and MPG isn't a big deal get the V6.

I drove the 4cyl and it is plenty powerful for a DD'er that isn't going to tow over 2000lbs or do a lot of off roading. The 6 cyl would be nice to have, sure, but not with the MPG hit( for me ).
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Unread 01-01-2014, 07:13 PM   #8
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I have the 4 cylinder. Plenty of pep in town, ample power for the highway. I have no complaints or regrets.
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Unread 01-01-2014, 09:28 PM   #9
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For a mere 3% MPG penalty I went with the V6. I used to live in the mountains and just saw too many problems with 4 bangers wearing prematurely due to the tough climbs up the mountains.
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Unread 01-01-2014, 11:10 PM   #10
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I test drove both and went with the 4cyl. Neither are going to be race cars and the 4 seemed just as good for normal driving plus the better MPG... I was sold.
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Unread 01-02-2014, 08:25 AM   #11
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For a mere 3% MPG penalty I went with the V6. I used to live in the mountains and just saw too many problems with 4 bangers wearing prematurely due to the tough climbs up the mountains.
For a 3 MPG average difference to be 3% it would mean you would need to get 100 MPG. 3 MPG difference when you see 22-25 MPG is 12-13%. I "believe", if my math is correct, that a 3 MPG gain over 22 MPG would be a 13.6% increase. So the 4cyl gets approx. 13% better MPG on average than the 6cyl.

To get the figure I believe you divide the difference( 3 MPG ) by the lower MPG figure( 22 ) to get the % increase. So 3 / 22 = 0.136 or 13.6%. I may be wrong on how you come up with the % for the difference but I think it is right. My head hurts.

IMO a 3 MPG difference, when the vehicles only average in the low to mid 20's, is quite significant. The only Cherokee model where the MPG difference is so minor that the 4 cyl really doesn't make sense from a MPG standpoint, at least IMO, is the TH( or if you do almost all highway - see below ).

2.4L TH = 19/25
3.2L TH = 18/25

On the non TH models it is 2-3 MPG better with the 4cyl on average. That adds up over time with what gas costs these days. While the highway MPG may only be off 1 MPG in the 4WD models( and not 3 MPG as with FWD ones )the city and average MPG is off 2 MPG. For most folks city makes up most of the driving and effects the average MPG a lot. If you do mostly highway the 6cyl may not impact your MPG as much although I would wager you could easily increase the difference between the 2 engines over the EPA rating with conservative driving.

FWD Non TH:
2.4L = 22/31/25
3.2L = 19/28/22

4WD ADI Non TH:
2.4L = 21/28/24
3.2L = 19/27/22

4WD ADII Non TH:
2.4L = 21/27/23
3.2L = 19/26/21

100,000 miles / 25 MPG = 4000 gallons of gas X $3.50 = $14,000.00

100,000 miles / 22 MPG = 4545.5 gallons of gas X $3.50 = $15909.25

Over 100K you spend $1909.25 more for fuel in FWD model, when gas is at $3.50, running the 6cyl vs the 4cyl if you see the EPA rated average MPG. As the cost of fuel rises over that $3.50 mark the difference increases fast as well. That is a lot of coin in my book.

Even if you drop back to the 2 MPG difference in the 4WD non TH's it is still a lot of coin...

ADI:
100,000 miles / 24 MPG = 4166.7 gallons of gas X $3.50 = $14,583.45

100,000 miles / 22 MPG = 4545.5 gallons of gas X $3.50 = $15909.25

ADII:
100,000 miles / 23 MPG = 4347.8 gallons of gas X $3.50 = $15,215.30

100,000 miles / 21 MPG = 4761.9 gallons of gas X $3.50 = $16,666.65
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Unread 01-02-2014, 09:26 AM   #12
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Don't forget to compare to what you are driving now. I traded in a Lincoln MKX that was getting 19 MPG. I had a 21 gallon tank and was stopping for gas every 4 days. With my new 15 gallon tank in the Jeep I still stop every 4 days for gas but my bill is $20 cheaper. So I am saving $20 every four days. That is a lot of coin!
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Unread 01-02-2014, 11:16 AM   #13
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Don't forget to compare to what you are driving now. I traded in a Lincoln MKX that was getting 19 MPG. I had a 21 gallon tank and was stopping for gas every 4 days. With my new 15 gallon tank in the Jeep I still stop every 4 days for gas but my bill is $20 cheaper. So I am saving $20 every four days. That is a lot of coin!
I here you. I sold my 08 HEMI Ram for my Patriot( hated to do it but gas costs were killing me ). I go almost the exact same miles on an average tank of gas but only have to put 1/2 as much in. Went from 12-14 MPG average to 23-24 MPG.

I fill as often but I go the same distance on 1/2 the fuel so it is a lot less painful on the wallet. $30-$40 instead of $80+. I really see a difference on highway trips. Best I could do in the truck was 19 and I routinely break 30 MPG( best ever 35.8 )in the Patriot despite only being rated to 26.

If I do get a Cherokee next year I will be very curious to see how well I can do on the highway MPG. As pointed out I absolutely smoke the EPA rating in the Patriot( hand calculated accurate figure before anyone questions them ). Wonder what I could do in a 2.4L ADI Cherokee rated at 28 MPG highway? Wonder if I could hit 40 MPG?
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Unread 01-02-2014, 05:24 PM   #14
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I agree....6 cylinder it is. I bought a 4 cylinder Wrangler when the new design came out (97?)since the 6's weren't out yet and regretted it.
I was all set to get the 4cyl and even had the deal all written up. Just needed to decide the color as they had the identical Cherokees of various colors.

For two days I was excited and trying to decide on the color. But something was just bothering me and one night I realized it was the 4cylinder. While I knew it would be more then adequate, I realized that was my one hesitation.

So went in the next day and bought the V6 in silver. I knew I would never regret getting the 6cyl but knowing "me", I knew I could regret not getting it.

Now that I have it, it's very cool...
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Unread 01-02-2014, 06:53 PM   #15
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I've made that mistake before. Coming from driving a v8 I bought a second car for DD and got a 4 instead. Ended up trading it in before I hit the two year mark. If a car is just a means for transportation for you the 4 gets the job done. If you need some excitement out of it sometimes and can afford it don't cheat you're self from the 6.
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