Originally Posted by Michaelgoesrawr
I help the people who can be helped when I can. I understand that people have no idea what they are doing and didn't have four years of weight room in high school under a trained coach but that doesn't mean I have the time to help every atom, Dick and Harry I come across because then I might as well be a personal trainer.
The people I talk about are the ones who don't even pay attention to the other people in the gym. I see someone try something new that looks effective, I'll give it a shot based on what they do. Monkey see, monkey do.
The first thing one does when in a new environment is observe the natives to learn how to act and fit in. Not these people. No way, no how.
I'm sure you're not as bad as you think. We are our own toughest critics.
I don't expect anyone to hold my hand.
I also expect them to offer a level of patience and general human decency. We all pay the same to be there and are all at the gym for relatively the the same reason.
I'm probably worse than I think haha.
But yeah, I have had literally zero formal training or help. No work out partners, nothing. I spent about 2.5 years just reading books, watching videos, reading on forums, etc and kinda built my own routine. I'd switch it up ever few months by adding/subtracting things just to keep it varied. I was probably doing 99% of it wrong, but I still saw impressive results (probably half was from the gym and half was just from my job), but now I can barely find the motivation to drive the 3/4 of a mile to the gym.
Mostly it's because of the people acting superior and being d-bags about it.(like a lot of the comments in this thread.) I just wanted to point out that working out is like everything else.
Everyone starts out knowing nothing and is a "newb." Everyone has different goals. Everyone has different paths. Same with Jeeps. Most on JF started out knowing very little (how they found JF in the first place,) and almost every one has a different build, and a different goal for their rig from mild to wild. But we're all still Jeepers and all still share the passion. Not that there isn't the odd d-bag or a$$hat here and there (my club has a few) but all in all we're all just people doing the same shat together.
Anyways, I just wanted to post from the other side of the fence.
I used to LOVE lifting and exercising and pushing myself, and now it's hard just to show my face in the gym let alone sweat it out...