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Unread 11-25-2010, 07:52 AM   #31
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Looks good.
You may want to think about getting rid of the stock side bars. They are only held into the main hoop by one bolt. At least weld them to the main hoop.
This is what one of mine looked like after a rollover. At the time it had a Toys by Troy bolt in cage.


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Unread 11-25-2010, 09:20 AM   #32
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A for effort for sure, C for execution.

is it beter than stock? sure, anything is better than stock really. no matter what it will add some support for sure. is is great? no.
Says the XJ with no cage...with ur expertise on cages why do you rate mine a C? How is my set up any different from one ordered from Poison Spyder customs? sure i dont have any bends on the bars but i didnt feel the need for them...a straight bar absorbs just as much impact if not more then any bent one would.

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Unread 11-25-2010, 09:23 AM   #33
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Looks good.
You may want to think about getting rid of the stock side bars. They are only held into the main hoop by one bolt. At least weld them to the main hoop.
This is what one of mine looked like after a rollover. At the time it had a Toys by Troy bolt in cage.
I think i will do that thanks for the advice.
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Unread 11-25-2010, 12:39 PM   #34
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Straight is MUCH stronger than a bend in the A pillar. That 1/4" plate that some of the aftermarket cages have running along the dash sides, is just plain stupid. It provides much less torsional, horizontal loading strength than a tube would in the same roll over, and less strength in compression as well.

My grading criteria:
Accomplished the task? (building onto a stock cage) Obviously yes
Fabricated something that will be as safe or safer than an off the shelf SIMILAR part? yes
Saved some money by doing it yourself? yes
Created something unique, whether it be simple or not, yes.
Used correct materials and building technique? yes

By all accounts, you passed. You could have used more tube, and more bends, but why? Like its going to look good after a bad roll anyway regardless of the cage?
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Unread 11-25-2010, 01:53 PM   #35
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Here is how Dale's ended up, and we built onto his existing cage etc.
dalecageweb.jpg
That's the only cage where I built onto the stock one, and it was kind of a PIA to be honest. Easier and less hassle to make it from scratch, but it was his rig and money, so he got what he wanted and did it fairly cheaply to boot
We also welded all the stock stuff together so as not to rely on the bolts on the stock cage.
It wasn't as strong as my old YJ with the FULL DOM tubing and none of the stock stuff. But he did flop it more than a few times with not a dent in any of the cage, or more importantly his head!
At the end of the day, the OP's cage ended up stronger than the POS stock one, so that's a winner in my book.
Overall, well done. Please ignore the "web wheelers" who wouldn't know how to build anything, but seem to be experts non the less....
This is not some competition rig that needs to pass inspection, so I don't see any problems with it myself. If the Op is happy, then that works for me. I have certainly seen a LOT worse on the forums over the years...

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Unread 11-26-2010, 05:28 AM   #36
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Here is how Dale's ended up, and we built onto his existing cage etc.
Attachment 166296
That's the only cage where I built onto the stock one, and it was kind of a PIA to be honest. Easier and less hassle to make it from scratch, but it was his rig and money, so he got what he wanted and did it fairly cheaply to boot
We also welded all the stock stuff together so as not to rely on the bolts on the stock cage.
It wasn't as strong as my old YJ with the FULL DOM tubing and none of the stock stuff. But he did flop it more than a few times with not a dent in any of the cage, or more importantly his head!
At the end of the day, the OP's cage ended up stronger than the POS stock one, so that's a winner in my book.
Overall, well done. Please ignore the "web wheelers" who wouldn't know how to build anything, but seem to be experts non the less....
This is not some competition rig that needs to pass inspection, so I don't see any problems with it myself. If the Op is happy, then that works for me. I have certainly seen a LOT worse on the forums over the years...

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I couldn't agree more,i think he did a FINE job not having access to a bender and it made the stock cage stronger.

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i cant feel my head right now lastnight was rough! but thanks for the support on my cage lol...hey martin wat material is the stock cage made of, just curious?
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Unread 11-26-2010, 04:25 PM   #38
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i cant feel my head right now lastnight was rough! but thanks for the support on my cage lol...hey martin wat material is the stock cage made of, just curious?
It was a few years ago, but .095 wall HREW rings a bell, and it was actually a metric tube, not a standard 2" etc. Which made notching the tubes meeting it was a pain, as they all needed finishing by hand
On my own cage, I made it all out of .120 wall 1.75" DOM. It made it stronger and allowed me to make it exactly how I wanted it as opposed to having to build off of the Jeep roll bar.
Here is mine before some triangulation went in on the roof section, seat mounts, etc.
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It was a few years ago, but .095 wall HREW rings a bell, and it was actually a metric tube, not a standard 2" etc. Which made notching the tubes meeting it was a pain, as they all needed finishing by hand
On my own cage, I made it all out of .120 wall 1.75" DOM. It made it stronger and allowed me to make it exactly how I wanted it as opposed to having to build off of the Jeep roll bar.
Here is mine before some triangulation went in on the roof section, seat mounts, etc.
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That's a fancy drink you got there looks good
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Unread 11-26-2010, 04:30 PM   #40
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That's a fancy drink you got there looks good
Sorry, never got the taste for crap American beer after being raised on real (10% alcohol) beer in England....
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crap american beer! i like that newcastle "imported" england beer! lol
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crap american beer! i like that newcastle "imported" england beer! lol
Newcastle Brown Ale..
Boddingtons....
Guiness.....

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mmmm brown ale! theres this beer called Chimay Ale from belgium, that we get here in the states...11% taste good too...check it out
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I live in El Paso ... How much to do that to mine?
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Unread 01-29-2011, 09:14 AM   #45
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I live in El Paso ... How much to do that to mine?
Who are you talking to?
Do what exactly?

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