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Unread 04-11-2010, 06:32 PM   #1
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YJ home made roll cage add on to stock roll cage

here are some pics of this weekends work
equipment used:
mig welder with .030 copper wire
DOM tubing 1 3/4 OD x .120 wall
2x 4ft, 2x 3ft, 1 4.5 ft tubes (total $150)
1/4 in steel plate for the floor mounts







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Unread 04-11-2010, 06:39 PM   #2
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Unread 04-11-2010, 06:47 PM   #3
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Unread 04-11-2010, 06:58 PM   #4
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Questions:

Are you planning to weld in a cross bar between your two rear loops?

Isn't the forward cross member supposed to be higher than the the top of the windshield?

Why did you make your drop down straight and not curved to the windshield and dash to the floor?
Doesn't that make it tougher to get in and out of the Jeep?
Doesn't that create an even bigger blind spot of both sides?

Are the floor mounts going to get support underneath the tub by going to the frame?
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i was goin to weld a cross member to the rear but the metal shop ran out of tubing....so yes in time i will add that
if i make the front cross member hire then the windshield how am i suppose to put the hard top on hmmm? so no its not suppose to be
tubes stayed straight bc i dont have a tube bender..well i do but its a manual one so didnt feel the need to and since my jeep is a YJ i wanted to keep the square look
the cage will be connected to the frame once more tubing is acquired by the metal shop (only 2 places in this city carry DOM and both are sold out of 1 3/4 inch)
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I was going to offer to bend you the 2 pieces that need to be bent, too late I guess. I have sent out quite a few at that angle, and the end user just cut to length and notched the one side. I even have the length/angle written down somewhere...
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if i make the front cross member hire then the windshield how am i suppose to put the hard top on hmmm?
Did you put on the hard top before you made the cage to see what clearance you have? Hmmmm? Besides, if you roll the Jeep, the bar should be the first thing that hits - not your windshield frame. My roll cage sits just above the frame and both my hard and soft tops fit fine.
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thanks for the offer...but ya too late...i like the straight look its growing on me =o)
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Sorry, but I'll give you an "A" for effort but an "E" for execution.

There is no way I would leave those front legs straight and the A pillar should be higher than the windshield as has already been mentioned. I would bang my knee against them constantly and they just look like they were poorly designed and you cheaped out IMO. If you have a bender, you should have used it.

For a little more money, you could have bought a kit with the pre-bent A pillar hoop and all of the tie in cross pieces.

At least put some gussets on that front A pillar. That thing will fold up like a box if/when you ever do roll it.
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Sorry, but I'll give you an "A" for effort but an "E" for execution.

There is no way I would leave those front legs straight and the A pillar should be higher than the windshield as has already been mentioned. I would bang my knee against them constantly and they just look like they were poorly designed and you cheaped out IMO. If you have a bender, you should have used it.
Thank you Let's hope this guy doesn't find out how wrong he is when it's too late. And maybe he'll add another cross member across the lower end of the windshield - A pillar to A pillar.
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I've never heard of "the a-pillar needs to be higher than the windshield frame" and I've been doing some web-wheeling for quite a while now. All of the major vendors have some sort of aftermarket cage and none of them, that I know of, are above the windshield - PSC (both new and old), RockHard, OR Fab, A to Z are some example. Some of them have spreader bars that go above the windshield frame (albeit a foot rearward of the windshield frame) but all of the A pillars I've ever seen are lower.

Besides; how would you put on a bikini top?


Here's an old PSC cage as an example.



P.s. I am in no way condoning the behavior/modifications of the OP as I think they're slightly dangerous as well, but the over the windshield frame is incorrect IMHO.
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Okay, well mine, my buddy's and few other Jeeper pals of mine, the cross member (from A to A) sits just above the top of the windshield. I guess to each his or her own. But his reason for not doing because of the hard top is wrong because the hard top slopes up after it leaves the windshield. His isn't even level with the frame - it's under it. And that PSC pic is from above so you can't tell where it sits.
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As was said.."to each his own" as far as the A pillar height,i've seen them above,at level with and below the windsheild,i see no revelance as to what is a "must",it's a personal reference.

I can't see where the mods he did made the stock cage any more dangerous than it was,if anything helped it out a bit.

I think the same as everyone else as far as the down tubes,should of bent it to fit snug to the dash,they gotta be some Knee Bashers ,especialy if it was me gettin in there.i am 6'4"..with a 36" inseem..long legs..lol,,BUT..i've seen ALOT worse jobs on them too..so congrads on the learning curve and doing it yourself
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Okay, well mine, my buddy's and few other Jeeper pals of mine, the cross member (from A to A) sits just above the top of the windshield. I guess to each his or her own. But his reason for not doing because of the hard top is wrong because the hard top slopes up after it leaves the windshield. His isn't even level with the frame - it's under it. And that PSC pic is from above so you can't tell where it sits.
i can clearly see in that pic the windsheild frame is much higher than the roll cage
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Okay, well mine, my buddy's and few other Jeeper pals of mine, the cross member (from A to A) sits just above the top of the windshield. I guess to each his or her own. But his reason for not doing because of the hard top is wrong because the hard top slopes up after it leaves the windshield. His isn't even level with the frame - it's under it. And that PSC pic is from above so you can't tell where it sits.
Agreed on to each his or her own and the hardtop part but in that picture it's clear, to me, the cage is lower than the windshield.

Here's a link to an article about installing that cage which shows way more, and better, pictures...

DELTA 4X4 CLUB TECHNICAL DEPARTMENT - POISON SPYDER CUSTOMS TJ CAGE INSTALL

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The new PSC cage


A to Z and KOZ as attachments.
atoz.jpg   kozcage.jpg  
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