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Unread 11-22-2010, 06:02 PM   #1
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Welding Advice

Please don't post on here if your going to make fun of me, but me and my buddy where laying some beeds and wanted to see what yall thought.

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Unread 11-22-2010, 06:12 PM   #2
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Not bad. I've seen way worse.

It's going to take some practice to get nice, even, uniform beads.

I'm pretty anal about aesthetics and even go as far as clamping a piece of angle iron to whatever I'm welding and then rest the head of the MIG against it while trying to keep the same distance away from the base metal while keeping a constant push/pull.
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Unread 11-22-2010, 06:24 PM   #3
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^^^As Stan said and you might need a little more heat. What kind of rod are you guys using? Keep practicing, you're getting there. And if anybody makes fun of you just remember they made welds that might not have been as good as yours. We all have to start somewhere!!
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Unread 11-22-2010, 06:30 PM   #4
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One thing that I forgot to mention:

I do not see any grinding marks on the material which leads me to believe that you didn't clean up the material prior to welding.

You will see a huge difference in weld quality once you get that coating off of the metal. Always use a grinder or a flap disc to get the material shiny before you weld and you'll see what I mean.
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Unread 11-22-2010, 07:04 PM   #5
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slow down on the travel, and make C motions, little more heat as well. Also Push the weld dont drag it you will get better penetration that will help flatten out the weld too.
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What kind of rod are you guys using?
I'm not an very educated welder so i might not even be making sence right now, but it's a flux core welder. So I'm not using a rod.

It's a Lincoln 140 flux core/mig welder

Lincoln Electric Weld Pak 140 HD Wire Feed Welder - K2514-1 at The Home Depot
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I'm a fairly new welder want to be. I find that I have to slow my hand speed down. Weld metal scraps together, let them cool, then use a BFH (sledge hammer and driveway) to break them apart. If you can break the weld apart, you didn't do it correctly.
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Weld metal scraps together, let them cool, then use a BFH (sledge hammer and driveway) to break them apart. If you can break the weld apart, you didn't do it correctly.
DUDE! That's exactly what we did haha
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you are staying in one spot too long which is why its building up and pooling, adjust the wire speed.

also it seems like your heat is too low as its not really flowing very well. hows the pressure on your gas?
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you are staying in one spot too long which is why its building up and pooling, adjust the wire speed.

also it seems like your heat is too low as its not really flowing very well. hows the pressure on your gas?
He isn't using gas....
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He isn't using gas....
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could use more heat for sure, as your bead did not seem to melt into the metal but more lay on top of it.

getting the motion down will take a while to keep it even and uniform through the weld.

and as said before prep work is everything. sure you can burn through rust and paint but you will get a much higher quality weld with clean metal. we all started somewhere, just keep practicing and working on it. they will improve!
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I've got one of the little Lincoln 110v welders. Do yourself a favor & go ahead & buy the gas setup for it. Before buying the kit, I practiced a lot with the flux core wire, & never did get what I'd call a "clean" bead. With the gas (I use straight CO2 for mild steel) I can lay down some wicked clean beads. These little welders do a pretty good job. I'm hunting out of numerous treestands that I fabbed up myself.
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I've got one of the little Lincoln 110v welders. Do yourself a favor & go ahead & buy the gas setup for it. Before buying the kit, I practiced a lot with the flux core wire, & never did get what I'd call a "clean" bead. With the gas (I use straight CO2 for mild steel) I can lay down some wicked clean beads. These little welders do a pretty good job. I'm hunting out of numerous treestands that I fabbed up myself.
Gas and a bigger welding machine really do help the newbie.... After welding with gas, I'll never weld without it as long as I can help it.
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When I need to "really" weld something, I go up to the neighbor's shop. We've got a ESAB 300 amp MIG. We use "dual shield" (flux core .045 wire with shielding gas, too). It'll weld any thickness metal you can come up with. Only problem I have is I tend to weld too slow with it, after being use to my little Lincoln.
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