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10-07-2011, 01:57 PM
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Web Wheeler
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Location: Virginia Beach, Va
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Welders read this!! It could save your life!!
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
Here's an article on it...
The short of it is, it turns into a poisonous gas that can kill you quick
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10-07-2011, 02:50 PM
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GROUND POUNDER
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newport News, VA
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Phosgene.... Mmmmm....
Bad thing is.. prior to a couple years ago, I wouldn't have given it a second thought.. and actually welded areas that had been "degreased" with brake cleaner.. it smelled horrible..
Glad I know better now..
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10-07-2011, 03:40 PM
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Glad to see something I posted is useful, for once...
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10-10-2011, 11:55 PM
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Location: Long Island, NY
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wow never would have known that. thanks for the post
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10-11-2011, 01:11 AM
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Location: Long Island, NY
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Just found this govt article about some welding material warnings, includes phosgene as talked about in the article that AmbuGrl posted: http://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtrai.../weldhlth.html
Also the zinc coating in galvanized steel can be toxic as well, its always important to check the MSDS for each material you are going to weld
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2004 WJ I6 4.0L DD
1987 YJ I6 4.2L Weber 34 DGEC carb, 4in RC, Custom 1 inch BL,Custom Steering box skid, homemade rear bumper with tire carrier, 33x12.5x15 KM2's on
Cragar Soft 8's, and a few other things
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10-24-2011, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: montreal, quebec
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I confirm about galvanized steel. I used to work in an elevator shop and weld that a lot with no aspiration system and had to quit before 1 year for health purpose order of my doctor, started having symptomes
after few month ,same for the guy who was working with me and the previous welder who worked there for over 6 year died.
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10-25-2011, 06:55 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Wichita, Kansas
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Oh my god. This must be a warning sign from the Gods. I was littlerally about to go pick up some break cleaner to clean off the oil on some tube I was welding on for my job. Thanks for posting this, it may have saved my life!
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10-27-2011, 08:24 PM
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I fixed my own jeep
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Phelan, CA
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I've used brake cleaner, degreaser, and whatever was handy in the shed to clean that oil film off steel. I'll never do it again. Thanks for this post, I'm going to pass this info on to some friends.
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10-27-2011, 08:32 PM
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Steel Oncologist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I fought with my job for a year before they would give me a resporator. Also once a year I take a Pulmonary function test. Job required for people who use a resporator.
Good looking out!
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10-27-2011, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Colton, SD
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If you don't have a ventilation system (down draft or up draft tables) to weld on, or items are too big always be aware of what you're welding and what has been put on it!!
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11-03-2011, 08:25 AM
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Eastern, Oklahoma
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wow
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12-01-2011, 07:33 PM
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SWANSON 2016
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Richmond, Virginia
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Odd, I thought this was common knowledge for shops. Came up in one of the safety videos at work when I started at the dealership I work at.
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12-01-2011, 10:57 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NNJ
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Im guessing a chlorine free brake cleaner would be a better substitute?
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12-31-2011, 03:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Foresthill, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2doorxj
Im guessing a chlorine free brake cleaner would be a better substitute?
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I doubt it, it has pretty nasty stuff in it as well. I always though brake cleaner left no residue. I think I electronic contact cleaner leaves no residue but I would not bet on it.
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