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post #31 of 39 Old 01-21-2011, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SplitNail View Post
On the craigslist page for the MM35 it says it needs a gun. What does that mean?
That means that the gun that controls the wire/arc/sheilding gas that has the button that runs the darn is broken and /or non existant and you'll need to spend some cash to get a new one.

I picked up a used Centruy 90 amp mig for $50 a few months ago.
I didn't get it working until last week, when I took it into Airgas and had them check it out to see what was wrong with the liner (I thought it was kinked and needed to be replaced). After pricing out a replace Tweco gun for $300 it turned out the liner/gun were fine. They sold me a new tip and a 2lb spool on flux core .030 and sent me on my way.

After screwing with the wire speed I was able to strike a arc and lay a decent bead. I'm now addicted. I've been welding everyday and yesterday I just picked up a Lincoln 180c w/ a tank of argon. I'm gonna install the 240v receptacle required to run the dang thing and after that its all over.

First thing I'm gonna build is a decent welding table, then maybe a cart and then I'll move on to fabbing up a new bumper, no more trying to justify $700 for an Arb bull bar, I can just make my own.

I guess my point is that welding is an invaluable skill. $800-900 bucks on a welder is a small fee compared to the capability and the doors having a good quality welder opens. Sure, pick up a used cheapo unit and mess around with it but plan to get a quality unit soon after. You really do get what you pay for, and how much hassle do you want to go through to get a partially working used welder to work?

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post #32 of 39 Old 01-21-2011, 07:25 AM
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I would save your money, if you want to melt some metal for the time being then get a name brand used buzz box that you can always sell later. Stick is very good to learn on and you can find old licoln or Miller units on CL all the time that will still run great. A good mig machine will last you a life time, do it right and buy a nice one. Also remember you need to buy accessories as well, if you only got $400 to spend then look for a $300 unit. Simple things like gloves, clamps, wire/sticks, mask, power cord, wire brushes/wheels and crap can really add up fast.

I have a licoln 180 and love it....if you have 220v access I would stick with that unless you need the portability of a small 110v unit. I would not waste gas with a 110v though, stick with flux core and you will have a stronger weld.

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220v is the best option for home fab..much more penetration and easier to learn than a 110v for the fact it will weld alot hotter giving better penetration and a smoother weld for looks.

Fluxcore is actualy better than MIG for the fact it is a hotter weld to give better penetration,AND fluxcore welds can be just as nice looking as a MIG once a person learns the "eye' for the difference between the slag puddle and the metal puddle

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Originally Posted by Saltine View Post
. Please back this up with facts. What new stuff are you referring to? There are load of people with 140s, 187s, 210s, 230s, etc. that would differ.
IMO means "in my opinion". I personally don't care for newer Hobarts. Their old machines were amazing, the current stuff.... Not so much. Again, that's MY opinion. If one wants facts they can research on their own. I'm speaking on MY experience.
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post #35 of 39 Old 01-21-2011, 11:17 AM
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dont mean to hijack your thread but how about a millermatic 175 for 500 bucks does that sound like a good deal and will that do all the fab necessary on a crawler?
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Originally Posted by Kenbo-Slice View Post
the current stuff.... Not so much.
What current stuff are you referring to?

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Originally Posted by Bigwillie343 View Post
dont mean to hijack your thread but how about a millermatic 175 for 500 bucks does that sound like a good deal and will that do all the fab necessary on a crawler?
I had a MM175 for several years, it is a good welder, I sold it cause I was welding too much at the top end got a bigger machine.
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i wouldn't waste your time on a 110v machine...save up until you can afford a 220 im running a hobart 210 and i've done all my bumpers and whatnot with it and it works great..AND i only run fluxcore i have no gas setup and im not following spending countless hours cleaning up from flux? all you have to do is a quick wirewheel job and thats it mine look pretty...i think flux is nice no need to worry about gas and it works fine for building crap for your jeep...

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Well I talked to my dad, he wants to get a 220v. So just gotta find a budget friendly one!

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